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Germ Warfare – The Internecine Battle Over Germ Theory is Ratcheting Up!

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The existence of viruses as causative, contagious agents of disease has been debated since Louis Pasteur and Antoine Béchamp in the 1860’s. Fast forward to the present time and we find that no virus taken from a human has ever been isolated. In fact, no one has ever seen a virus of any kind. They are all imaginary. Today, all are created in silicone” asserts Kyle Young. Yet, the virus, no virus dichotomy has continued and those most concerned about the no virus view according to Kyle, “seems to be those who have awakened enough to understand the problems associated with the current jab /lockdown /mask/ closure/ mandate agenda, but have not yet awakened to the fact that all of this has occurred because of an unfounded fear of viruses (germs)” (source).

‘I’ve read the original paper from the institute in Wuhan that purports to describe the covid-19 virus. It’s a reductionist nightmare involving chemicals, non human cells and computer generated gobbledygook.’ he says, continuing “The idea of whole systems biology is lost on virologists. ‘Their income depends on perpetuating the virus myth. Indeed, the entire pharmaceutical vaccine industry depends on perpetuating this myth.”

Kyle Young recognises that it is more than a myth. It’s also a fear tactic. and as long as people can be convinced that viruses exist, whether natural or man made, there will be huge profits to be made by generating fear to get people to line up for more harmful vaccines, vaccines which make more people sick.”

“Millions of sick people is exactly what the medical industrial complex needs to feed the machine. If viruses do not exist, how can they be manipulated? How can they be engineered in a lab?”

While it is a given now among the self professed awake that we are being lied to, they are not prepared to entertain the idea that the Pasteurian theory has been one of those lies and would rather continue to push the global cult’s cash cow. but just as Kyle Young says “unlike many in the pro-virus camp, no one in the no-virus camp is protecting a position that makes them money.” He names three most prominent people in the no-virus camp Dr. Tom Cowan, Dr. Andrew Kaufman and Stefan Lanka PhD. and “other notables” are; Marc McDonald MD, Peggy Hall, Mark and Samantha Bailey MD’s, Sally Fallon, Alphonse Faggiolo, Barre Lando MD, Kelly Brogan MD, Veda Austin, Tony Roman, Sayer Ji, to name but a few. “These people have given up so much to speak the truth, which is one of the ways we know they’re on the right path.” he says.

Kyle Young explains why he is so passionate about this topic in the article below which was originally published in his Substack The Secular Heretic.

Germ Warfare.

Written by Kyle Young

As regular readers know, over the past 1.75 years I’ve written a number of articles questioning the official narrative about germ theory. This is not another one. Today we’ll be considering those who don’t question it and asking why not.

But first, I hope you will allow me to give a brief explanation of why I’m so passionate about this topic.

Somewhere in the first decade or so of my 35 year long history of dealing with gut issues I began to realize that most of what I had been told all my life about health, previous to that point, was bull hooey. Early in that unlearning/relearning process I became aware of the debate between Luis Pasteur and Antoine Béchamp that took place in the mid 1800’s, a debate about what was more important, the terrain or germs.

The modern allopathic, ‘germ theory’ based medical system misdiagnosed my illness as giardia and treated me for that, when all along I was suffering from IBS. The result was that they nearly succeeded in putting me in an early grave.

Once I began to read and understand more about the terrain, transitioning to terrain theory seemed right as rain. Because of my gut issues it was easy for me to understand how I had not provided a very good habitat (terrain) for my gut microbiome for much of my early life and that I needed to work on that. Although efforts to improve my terrain have paid off in spades, it’s a very complex subject and I’m still learning more all the time (source).

The Current Issue

But to get to the heart of how I came to my current position and how and when the recent debate over germ theory began, we need to fast forward to the Health and Freedom Summit in June of 2020 in Tucson, Arizona, right when much of the world was gripped by the covid fear porn being spread by mass media. Dr. Tom Cowan gave a presentation at that Summit in which he questioned the science behind germ theory. A video of that presentation was posted on youtube where it promptly went viral, which set the current debate in motion.

That video was also one of the first (if not the first) videos questioning the official narrative about covid and viruses, that was censored (taken down) by Google/Youtube. They were too late. The seed had been planted and was already beginning to germinate. There are millions of people like myself who have suffered severe consequences from the allopathic, anti-life, antibiotic mind set of the medical-industrial-complex and many of them immediately resonated with Dr. Cowans presentation. For me, his presentation clarified my understanding of why germ theory is off-base and how this was used to take most of my life savings and put me at deaths door (source)

Full disclosure: Because of our common interest in the work of Rudolf Seiner, about 6 years ago Dr. Cowan and I began emailing each other after an interview he did with Dr. Mercola. Long story short, that led to me supplying him with moringa from Mexico and local cholla buds for his plant powder business. I then had no contact with him for about 5 years until we did this interview in October of 2021. We have not communicated since then, although I would like to interview him again.

Dr. Cowan’s 6/20 presentation led to a number of collaborations with other like minded doctors, many of whom have also decided to overcome their fear of being publicly chastised in favor of speaking out about the problems with germ theory and modern, allopathic medicine.

Of course, neither Dr. Cowan nor any of those other doctors came to this position on their own. Since Béchamp/Pasteur’s time there have been numerous doctors who have questioned germ theory. Many more doctors were outraged when the Rockefeller funded Flexner Report and subsequent Rockefeller funded debunking of naturopathic and homeopathic medicine was used to elevate their preferred and highly profitable petrochemical based drugs and antibiotics.

In more recent decades we have books like Say Goodbye to Germ TheoryThe Contagion MythInvisible Rainbow, and a number of others that all question germ theory. The reality is, the scientific debate over the existence and causative effects of germs has been ongoing since the mid 1800’s. It remains an unsettled theory (source)

The Proclamation

Several weeks ago Dr. Cowan, Dr. Andrew Kaufman and 18 of their colleagues wrote and signed a proclamation about germ theory. You can read the full document here.

This document has been successful in generating waves of both approval and consternation. It’s interesting to note that the most concerned are not the deep state officials running the big plandemic magic show. The most concerned seems to be those who have awakened enough to understand the problems associated with the current jab/lockdown/mask/closure/mandate agenda, but have not yet awakened to the fact that all of this has occurred because of an unfounded fear of viruses (germs).

In this previous piece I talked about the two camps that are at odds in this debate. On the side questioning the current ‘official’ virus narrative are all the above signatories of the proclamation, as well as many others.

On the side that backs the ‘official’ virus narrative, but takes a less favorable approach to the rest of the covid agenda, you have Steve Kirsch, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (who has said he supports vaccines in general), Robert Malone and a number of other prominent outspoken critics of the covid plandemic who are, confusingly, supportive of vaccines in general (both Kirsch and Malone took the covid jabs) (source)

Kirsch

As far as this last group is concerned, when it comes to defending germ theory and attempting to debunk the Dr. Cowans of the world, Steve Kirsch has been one of the most outspoken critics, having written numerous articles on the topic in recent months. His most recent one, published on 8/1, was also his most scathing.

In that piece, Kirsch spends a lot of capitol supporting the “100 years of scientific research” into viruses and their causative nature. Lest we forget, this is the very time period when medicine was being rewritten and revamped, all courtesy of the Rockefeller Foundation. I would suggest that to get up to speed with how we came to have our current medical system, Kirsch watch this documentary.

He has also failed to consider that this scientific debate is far from settled, that it has been ongoing since the mid 1800’s.

Furthermore, his defense of “the science” is unrelenting – so much so that it reminds me of something Dr. Anthony Fauci said about science.

“Attacks on me, quite frankly, are attacks on science. … So if you are trying to, you know, get at me as a public health official and scientist, you’re really attacking not only Dr. Anthony Fauci, you’re attacking science … You have to be asleep not to see that.” — National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Dr. Anthony Fauci, “Meet the Press,” June 9, 2021

Here is what Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said about Fauci’s statement.

“It is troubling enough that Dr. Anthony Fauci, our country’s leading public health technocrat and the fiat leader of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) — the world’s principal funder of scientific research — would make such a narcissistic and scientifically absurd statement.”

At this point a question comes begging: What science are we talking about? As we all know, science is malleable, or at least it’s supposed to be. In the ideal world science is an ongoing work in progress that evolves with increased knowledge and understanding. Its foundation is the idea that all theories are to be questioned until proven.

Unfortunately, it no longer works that way. Today science is a commodity bought and traded like stocks, wheat and pork bellies. That this is antithetical to our Constitutional right to freedom and liberty has been made very clear by the death and destruction that has occurred due to the war against humanity under the guise of the medical-science-driven covid pandemic.

All of this was foreseen and predicted in 1962 by one of our greatest presidents (and fellow Kansan), Dwight D. Eisenhower.

“The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. … We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. …”

“In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government. … The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present — and is gravely to be regarded. …

“We must … be alert to the … danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”

It would seem that the covid plandemic has brought about the very captivity that Eisenhower warned about. More to the point at hand, this is the very science that Steve Kirsch wants us to believe – science instigated and paid for under government contracts generated by deep-state bureaucrats like Anthony Fauci who oversaw research projects run by people like Robert Malone.

In an open and free society, we would be giving equal consideration to independent, non-governmental, non-corporate funded research done by groups of folks similar to those who signed the Proclamation.

Given the fact that Eisenhower’s warnings have come to pass, and given the current shambles that have come about due to the covid plandemic, it seems the time has come to disband all of those unconstitutional, government agencies.

Gut the beast!

Jon Rappaport, who predates me as a debunker of germ theory, has also weighed in on this debate, rightly pointing out the procedural flaws used in the studies Kirsch points to.

I have to say, it seems Dr. Cowan has a better handle on the fact that science is not always an etched-in-stone truth. Unlike Kirsch, rather than constantly pointing to ‘the science’, he often repeats the need to ‘question the science’ and highlights numerous reasons why. This is the truly scientific approach. Science is an ongoing work in progress that evolves with increased knowledge and understanding. Its hallmark is the idea that all theories are to be questioned. As the doctors who signed the proclamation make clear, germ ‘theory’ has not yet been proven (source).

Why Sit on the Fence?

We know that Kirsch and Malone are aligned because of an interview they did together with Bret Weinstein, which I posted here on 6/27/21. That video also went viral and elevated both Kirsch and Malone to their current careers as ‘authorities’ questioning the covid narrative. Malone has made clear that he still has business interests connected to the virus industry. I can’t speak for Kirsch in that regard.

Speaking of investments, Kirsch has put a million dollars on the table for anyone who can beat him in a debate about this topic. He claims that because neither Dr. Cowan or any of the others have taken up his offer that that proves he is right and they are wrong. This is fallacious because it’s circular reasoning. Proving a premise is right by using the premise to prove it’s right is not science.

In this video of Dr. Cowan talking about the Proclamation with several of the signatories, he mentions in passing that he was bushwhacked in a recent debate by someone who he was not told was going to be part of the debate, showing up in the debate. I would also be gun-shy about public debates after such a thing.

Apart from that, it’s easy to foresee that Kirsch would present a lot of peer reviewed articles from medical journals to make his case. The problem with this approach is that it falls very nicely into the established framework created by those deep state powers that Eisenhower warned us about. It also ignores the corruption that exists within the world of medical journals, again, due to that corrupt, deep state, power structure.

Sadly, there is little to no profit to be made using terrain theory, so it doesn’t get funded. Because of this corrupt power structure, the amount of peer reviewed articles on terrain theory are slim to none, so Kirsch’s opponent would automatically be at a disadvantage. I have to think Kirsch knows this.

And then there is the money issue. Using money to justify an argument is a ponzi scheme as old as the hills. Those who choose to use it need to examine their morals, especially as they pertain to scientific debate.

Are Kirsch, Malone and their ilk concerned that if we take viruses out of the picture that the entire allopathic, antibiotic, vaccine, medical industrial complex will collapse? It becomes apparent that the only reason to continue to embrace germ theory and suppress other ideas is to maintain the status quo on behalf of those who are, in some fashion, profiting the from germ-theory-driven, deep state, medical industrial complex. Eisenhower was right. The influence of money and power has completely skewed how we perceive medicine… to our detriment.

We also need to consider the face saving angle. If the terrain theory were to gain some approval, those who have put all their chips on the germ theory hand will have to eat cake.

Because Kirsch is so confident in his version of “the science”, he has said that the article I referenced will be his last on the topic. Wow. That’s akin to the Vatican saying Copernicus is wrong, that the sun rotates around the earth and that’s the end of it. No more discussion needed. Copernicus was thrown in the dungeon for presenting a scientific theory that everyone now agrees is fact.

The problem then was religious control – by the Church. The problem now is religious control – by the religion of “the science”. Fauci preaches it, Malone preaches it, Kirsch preaches it. Go against the official religion and like Copernicus, you get shamed, censored, banned, blacklisted, shut down, or… murdered (Dr. Kary Mullis? and others).

My position is, we are just scratching the surface of what there is to learn and I’m looking forward to learning more. I’ll be writing more about this as the power base of money, influence and power becomes eroded, as opinions shift – and they will – and as knowledge and understanding changes. Do I see an end to this process? No. If history has taught us anything it’s that knowledge and understanding is never stagnant, it’s always in flux. Unlike Kirsch, I’ll likely be writing about this until I become fodder for earthworms (source)

Kyle Young Interviews Dr Tom Cowan.

A mind bending discussion”

Kyle interviewed Dr Tom Cowan which he published in 2021 and introduced the video which can be seen below by saying: “Some might think of Dr. Cowan as someone who functions outside the box. Although he certainly does that, I think his true gift is the ability to use truth, science, facts and practicality to break through the shield wall that’s been funded over the past 75 years by the pharmaceutical cartels to keep doctors cloistered within the official narrative. “

This works due to the negative consequences venturing outside the cloister has on their careers. I think this interview provides a good example of how passionate Dr. Cowan is about getting to the truth – which means he’s not afraid to consider questions and look deeply into topics that others fear to consider.

Perhaps if more doctors today had Dr. Cowans’ curiosity and integrity we wouldn’t be in the midst of this manufactured crises.

Source:

Kyle Young – Germ Warfare https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/germ-warfare

Kyle Young – Interview With Dr. Tom Cowan https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/interview-with-dr-tom-cowan

Kyle Young – Interview With Dr. Tom Cowan – Rumble https://rumble.com/vnd26k-red-pill-interview-dr.-tom-cowan.html

Kyle Young – The Secular Heretic – https://secularheretic.substack.com/

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23 days ago

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Mrs D
Mrs D
23 days ago

Brilliant post Patricia, my one quibble so far is this:

“While it is a given now among the self professed awake that we are being lied to, they are not prepared to entertain the idea that the Pasteurian theory has been one of those lies and would rather continue to push the global cult’s cash cow.”

Being awake doesn’t mean to everything in all fairness, indoctrination regarding stuff like this is particularly intense, so is hard to break. Used to believe it myself and still say things sometimes, which sort of give the lies credence. Then i give myself a slap.

Great article, will save it to pdf for people i’m trying to help. It has several useful videos which usually appeal to the newly awakening.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
23 days ago

Saturday’s are definitely a slow day for comments. Erm, usually that is. This article will probably be heaving with them later or tomorrow.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
23 days ago

The above comment should have been to you Patricia.

Dave Owenhttps://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/for
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Reply to  Mrs D
23 days ago

Hi Mrs D,
Would you have time to see this.
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=239389

Mrs D
Mrs D

Just popped back in Dave, will take a look…

Mrs D
Mrs D

Really like the look of this video, will download it for later, my little cat wants her evening meal soon. =)

RMN is a really good site, found much interesting stuff for me. Cheers for alerting me to it friend.

Mrs D
Mrs D

Ooh, posted a comment to you on the perpetual war thread, recommending Huxley’s Brave New World Revisited.

Can’t recommend it enough if you haven’t already read it friend.

Mrs D
Mrs D

Can see Watcher Seeker with his other alter egos/box of frogs inhabitants, has down voted the couple of upvotes you probably gave me.

It’s actually quite amusing but glory!

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
23 days ago

Keep at it Mrs. D!

Because we’ve had hardly any rain worth mentioning this last several days up here in the Outer Hebrides, I’ve been outside working the land.

As tomorrow is the Lord’s Day, I’ll be resting, and reading/studying the Scriptures, and if I feel led to, I may comment on this ere site.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
22 days ago

Lovely to see you friend and hugs for the encouragement. Have a beautiful Lord’s Day, sure we’ll have a chat soon.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Patricia Harrity
23 days ago

That quote from Aristotle says it all, doesn’t it? Heck, wasn’t he a Greek philosopher? Nevertheless, I agree, there is so much we “don’t know.”

The Incarnate Deity, the Lord Jesus Christ could never have said such trifle, for He is not a truth, but the very TRUTH itself-the TOTAL embodiment of it!

I am the way, the TRUTH and the life. John 14:6.

How many believe this?

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
22 days ago

“Heck, wasn’t he a Greek philosopher?”

Burst out laughing at that, so true but at least Aristotle said some wise things too.

Hmm, makes me wonder just how far back social conditioning goes.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Patricia Harrity
22 days ago

“but some have decided they know all there is to know and don’t need to entertain anything that contradicts that knowledge.”

Definitely looks like that Patricia but don’t think it’s that straightforward. Think it would be worth posting an article on how serious an issue the way we’re indoctrinated is, most people have no idea their perceptions are often not their own.

We’re designed to envisage and grow forever, the filth have succeeded in limiting our development for sure. It’s crisis level now, think we’re really ambidextrous, consider ancient languages were mostly written right to left etc. I won’t go off on one but early universities were designed to produce polymath types. However, in the 17th century they became technocrat/”expertocracy” factories. This evil conditioning has been LONG in operation, to the point where most have no idea things shouldn’t be like this.

You and Rhoda are two very fine women, think you’re both a lot younger than me. Old but can honestly say it’s the most enjoyable time of my life despite things being hell on earth. At my age, you don’t have the worries and many anxieties of the young, can just enjoy life more and increasingly become like what you’re meant to be.

Hope that makes some sense and totally agree with you. It’s horribly sad most are so conditioned, they reject the keys which would release them from their prison.

One of the very longest comments i’ve posted, hope it doesn’t contain too much seeming gibberish.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
22 days ago

Will add something fairly interesting regarding my thinking ambidexterity is probably the norm for us.

Favoured my left hand when little but thanks to the “encouragement” of school teachers, taught myself to use my right hand for writing too.

In tests, my average score is 63% right brained, 37% left by the criteria applied. However, most people use their right hand and if you take away 13% from my right brained score, then add 13% to the left brained score. the result is 50:50.

My average score on logic is around 80%, so the left/right brained theory seems questionable for sure.

Gw Wells
Gw Wells
23 days ago

CORRELATION is not causation…. I think there are viruses of discrete proteins in the body… yet if one increases for some reason does that mean its the cause or merely associated with the possible health condition… unless you can transfer the virus and get same results in another party couldn’t prove causation…. and as I understand viruses are too small to be isolated to really do the necessary experiment

Gw Wells
Gw Wells
23 days ago

since I don’t fear illness I seem now to never have one… but I am surprised now that I am aware…. how frantic people get over germs and fear of ‘catching’ something… so there is a base of anxiety at the minimum in most people.. I notice the dogs licking themselves licking all parts of others, licking the ground yet never getting sick… I think it was Jesus when challenged about his not washing hands before eating saying something like its not the cause and it was the filthiness of the thinking of his enemies that caused their problems.

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Nicole
Nicole
22 days ago

Another great article Patricia, thanks.
I’d like to point out something that might not seem too relevant but as we know, words are very powerful.
When something on social media spreads like wildfire across the world, people say It went “VIRAL” suggesting that it has SPREAD like CONTAGION.
If there is growing awareness and evidence that there are no ‘viruses’ such that we have been told, then may I suggest that we stop using the expression “It went viral” and maybe choose another term?
Just a thought : )

Nicole
Nicole
22 days ago

On another topic….TRANSHUMANISM…
I’ve just received information from Stop World Control (David Sorensen) that his short 40 min film has been released and posted on X. It’s also available to see on his website.
The film is called ‘THE END OF HUMANITY: As planned by the global leaders.’ It is crucial info that is clearly explained and needs to be shared everywhere with everyone so we can all reject their plans for us.

http://www.StopWorldControl.com/endhumanity

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Stuart-james.
Stuart-james.
22 days ago

Any argument/discussion that needs fear selling it is a scam!

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22 days ago

Hi Patricia,
I thought Luis Pasteur was more known for working in the wine and beer industry.
He mainly did work on bacteria in the beers and wines.
Cannot see this mentioned, he invented boiling water to kill bacteria.
Hardly what makes a scientist.

Dave
Dave
21 days ago

Great content. However I will def. stop reading those that call a lie, a falsehood, a misrepresentation, a misconception a „myth“. A myth is the opposite. It tells profound truth and sets you free. If you can‘t use your language accurately, then you can never mean what you say, weakening your cause massively. There are plenty of words to describe virus-claims correctly, why denigrate myths, perhaps one of the greatest, truest and most healing treasures of humanity.
And yes, you‘re using „their“ language who are trying to sever humanity from its roots.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Dave
21 days ago

Agree myths can have that purpose but they’re also used for indoctrination, predictive programming etc.

Think about many fairy tales, legends, iffy myths for children, legacy news, films etc too.

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Reply to  Mrs D
20 days ago

Hi Mrs D,
Have you time to have a look at this patent, C19 is not mentioned ?
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=239471

Mrs D
Mrs D

Quite a few videos to take a look at there, of course they didn’t take the jab friend but sure they’re in the same boat as us.

Mrs D
Mrs D

Just found these Dave, short but to the point article, which i strongly agree with.

Think C19 is just a ruse friend, that we’re deluged with evil stuff in our air, food, water etc. Likely designed to make us transhuman by force and hook us up to 5g.

Really saddens me when people judge those who took the vax trustingly, think we’re in the same boat too.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
18 days ago

The second comment to you should have been first Dave.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
18 days ago

Mrs. D!

How exactly can we be “in the same boat”?

I don’t doubt for one second that TPTB are doing all the devilish things you say, nevertheless having poison directly injected into the body/blood (the life of the flesh is in the blood. Lev. 17:11) is on an entirely stratospherically different scale to breathing in and eating manifold impurities (we always have!). Us humans have a Creator that foreknew (rather predestined) all of this; He gave us an inherent resilience to withstand in the evil day (Eph. 6:13) but more than this, God has an “elect” people.

Remember, the so called ‘Elite’ still breathe in the same air and no doubt eat things that are off-centre, be assured of this!

Do not ye yet understand that WHATSOEVER entereth into the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? Matthew 15:17. (Emphasis mine).

Anything that is sold and marketed as food is just that- food.

Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake. 1 Corinthians 10:25. Please read the following few verses.

Was the abiding Word of God written just for those only alive at the time of writing, or for those in the age to follow? I think you know!

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
17 days ago

Absolutely agree with you friend, meant in the same boat but we’re less likely to drown so quickly. Also there are cumulative effects from bad dietary habits, let alone what we’re deluged with.

Hope my reply doesn’t look like i’m upset or something and the Matthew 15:17 scripture is great. It’s amazing how aware the Ancient Hebrews were of things like quarantine and sanitation, thanks to divine instruction. Can’t remember the chapter off the top of my head but the advice within it still holds.

Still trying to get a good footing with my studies friend. At the stage now where prayer, study and reflection is important for me at the start of the day. Also, really want to meet and discuss with similar believers, think we’re the Calvinist/Reformed Church types? There are a few Baptist churches twixt here and nearby counties, would you recommend them? Really feel the need for like minded fellowship. Hope you can reply soon.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
17 days ago

Evening Mrs. D!

“Cumulative effects from bad dietary habits..”

I will try and find the source for you, but a study has been done on a group of people that eat nothing but so-called “junk food” for a period of years-mainly eating out at MacDonald’s. No ill effects, at all!

My wife was a health food freak, and used to preach; you are what you eat. Now she preaches: you are what you read. (I wonder why?)!

Regarding “quarantining” this is expressly taught in Leviticus 13. I did post a lengthy exposition on one of The Expose’s articles, but sincerely I can’t remember where!

I will (God willing) explain the contagion myth/virus fallacy from God’s written word tomorrow/Sunday-so watch this space.

Yes, you are correct, I identify as a Reformed Calvinist, though I don’t go around calling myself a Calvinist! I came out of the Pentecostal/Charismatic, Hebrew/Jewish roots movement some 20 years ago before ‘stumbling’ onto the trusted Old Paths!

I’ll get back to you tomorrow.

I’ll have a quick look elsewhere on The Expose if it is worth putting a short comment/reply before going to bed.

May God continue to bless your studies.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
16 days ago

Will get the first part of your reply out of the way quickly friend, know virus infection etc is false, was thinking more about things like parasite infestations. Not a health food freak by a long shot but a decent diet definitely contributes to well being, as does not being prone to fretting, anger etc.

Not the important part to me anyway friend, the dearth of good spiritual communities here and in the surrounding counties, is an issue. So many chapels, churches etc have closed, most of the ones i’ve checked out seem really wokey.

Finding it tough friend, none of the Baptist communities nearby are Reformed Church anymore. There were a lot of Wesleyan Methodist Chapels and communities pretty close by apparently, all gone now but for the eco friendly etc types. Likely i notice how bad things are as i’ve just started looking, could also be post-fakedemic fallout.

Struggling Islander and really need some companionship with like minded believers now.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
16 days ago

PS Even JWs haven’t knocked for a few years, says a lot methinks.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
16 days ago

Was a little hopeful when i first discovered Spurgeon Baptist Church, who aren’t that far away:

https://spurgeonbaptist.com/

It was the name that grabbed my attention but they are part of the Baptist Union. Just don’t know enough about these things yet to make a good choice friend.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
16 days ago

The Baptist Union need avoiding at ALL costs!

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
16 days ago

Bless you for that, researched a little before looking for communities and thought they wouldn’t be right for me.

Bless you again for recommending Understanding Ministries- Paul Fahy. Just looked it up and from the results alone, can tell he doesn’t mince his words. It’ll really help having some idea what’s gold and what’s dross.Hope you’ve had a great day, any other ideas you have will truly be welcome friend.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
16 days ago

Look up Understanding Ministries- Paul Fahy, he’s written a lot on the state of our churches. Some good stuff there, though he is not pre-millennial.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
16 days ago

Evening Mrs. D!

When we read of lepers being quarantined or rather shut up (first mention Leviticus 13:4), being the KJV description, many wrongly assume that it was to stop the spread of leprosy through the community. The Scripture doesn’t teach this, only that it was a God ordained priestly ritual. Clearly the Levitical priests had no fear of coming into close contact with the leper.

When we read the account of Naaman the Syrian in 2 Kings 5:1, we are told that he was a great man… but he was a leper. If you read the whole chapter (only 27 verses) you will see that he came into close contact with a great many people who evidently had zero fear of catching a ‘contagious’ disease. God gave Gehazi Naaman’s leprosy because he coveted the gifts that the prophet Elisha refused.

This is the sovereignty of God at work! Read Luke 4:27.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
16 days ago

Ah! Can understand that for sure friend and cheers for the scriptures. Have so much to learn, finding the Spurgeon Gems sites, a gem, downloaded sermons and pdf, including his commentary on the Gospel of Matthew.

Really need some spiritual fellowship, if something does cross your mind, i’d love to know.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
15 days ago

Started my morning with your recommendation of 2 Kings 5 and Proverbs, which i love.

Yep, that chapter says what you said it would, fascinating and instructional for me. Takes me down a new line of appreciation for God, even if i can’t find suitable fellowship physically, advice from people like you really helps. Also, downloaded both pdfs by Paul, be assured they will be read Islander.

Have a wonderful Lord’s day friend, hope to see you soon.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
15 days ago

Actually find many of my recent beliefs pretty funny now friend, amazing to me how quickly they’ve been taken apart by the truth.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
15 days ago

Thankyou my dear friend for your feedback-I have been much “under the weather this last few days”-will get back to you.

Before I go-Paul Fahy writes many good articles, but he is not premillennial (bad), and doesn’t believe in a literal antichrist in the coming physical temple soon to be rebuilt. Also I don’t like his usage of the NKJV-I have had several exchanges with him on many things-all good natured, of course!

He highly regards preachers/writers such as Spurgeon and A.W. Pink.

Pink fed on Spurgeon and the puritans, and I have so much to be grateful to him for! It was because of him that I decided to settle up here.

I still can’t believe your spiritual growth-it knocks me back, and to think that a nobody like me has helped a little!

Do you think there is an overkill going on this site-too many articles-they are all interlinked, hence the comments have died down so-much? Also, isn’t it now becoming obvious that there is now not so much “gung-ho” from Rhoda and others about changing the world as there used to be? (I made my position clear to her from day one when I first discovered this site some two years back).

I think many of the more seasoned commenters here have now come to the realisation that there is a seeming inevitability that WE THE PEOPLE (I don’t like that phrase!) have NO power to stop this onslaught? They are right.

That was a big postscript!

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Islander
15 days ago

Forgot to say, Fahy is also a flerfer! Did you know that I have an e book on Amazon (8 years ago) on why the earth is not a spinning ball?

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
14 days ago

Bless you friend, whether it’s being unwell or problems, hope your feeling much better now.

Read up on premillennial during the early hours of Sunday, it makes sense to me. Also most of what i’ve researched suggests the antichrist will be in the new temple, in complete control of what remains of this system? Paul’s choice what he believes, think we’re both mature enough to consider the good stuff he says and reject the rubbish.

Can’t thank you and a few others enough for helping wake me up friend. Can imagine how you all felt when i pontificated on stuff i really knew so little about.

“Do you think there is an overkill going on this site-too many articles-they are all interlinked, hence the comments have died down so-much?”

Just had a look at the front page and don’t personally think that’s so friend. Sunday’s articles were similar but scanned through a few more days and found considerable diversity. The poor souls are truly struggling because of the Govt assault and clearly try so hard. Financial support from site users is obviously nowhere near enough to make a living, so likely they need other paid work. And yes, i too have noticed many more realising this isn’t our battle to fight, this is the big IT. Definitely noticed the Expose team turning up the power, maybe they wanted to reach as many as possible and now are going all out? Also noticed more commenters promoting strife and violence have turned up again, perhaps trying to provoke an excuse for this site to be banned?

A.W. Pink? Heard the name before and about to research further. Always lovely chatting with you friend and can’t thank you enough for helping me find the path i need and love.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
13 days ago

Morning Mrs. D!

On the mend-hope your studies are going well!

You won’t go wrong with Pink!

J.C. Ryle is really good as well-type in J.C. Ryle’s PROHETIC CREED-he was “on the ball”!

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Islander
13 days ago

Think it pretty bad this situation with Patricia and Rhoda, don’t you?

I recollect RW calling Sam a “liar” to me. I’m always suspicious of people that speak this way-a bit like WS-name calling, when everyone doesn’t agree with them?

Though Sam doesn’t profess to be a Christian, his scientific explanations seem easy to follow and unconvoluted, plus I have the confirmation from the Scriptures that contagion/viruses travelling through air is false. This is entirely different to INFECTION which does exist.

“Science falsely so called” 1 Tim 6:20.

If there was any truth in contagion, you would think the Scriptures would say, wouldn’t you?

If it were so, there would be a verse with words to the effect of “If you are anywhere near someone coughing and sneezing-RUN!!!”?

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
13 days ago

Oh no! Only looked in this morning to see if you had replied, had no idea there’s a situation between those two lovely women. Don’t think i know Sam either but from what you say, think he’s on the Expose Team too.

These are difficult times for sure, very understandable people losing the plot at times and the team have horrible pressures.

Actually giving up smoking friend, well trying to. Gone 48 hours without so much as a puff and feeling ok at the moment. Changing what i spend my time online to better purposes too, playing lots of chess infuriates me because of the endemic cheating etc.

Heard of J C Ryle friend, will look him up for sure. Hope you’re feeling much better friend, love to you and your family.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
13 days ago

I’ve got nothing against smoking per se, I believe moderation is the key in all these things, Spurgeon was a cigar smoker and enjoyed a glass, or two, or three, please read Romans 14:22.

My late father was a chain smoker, also a heavy drinker, he died in 1984, apparently lost a lung through his excessive smoking, not entirely sure that was the sole cause of death; being a radio officer in the merchant navy and something of a radio/electronics expert as well…suffered from radiation sickness-God knows. Didn’t really know him, out at sea all the time!

He was into chess as well-this was before the internet age as you know, out at sea they had to occupy themselves? left me a lovely ivory chess set, but never really got into it!

Our friend SAbi and her various aliases is also a smoker! I never got into it-smoked cannabis mixed with tobacco-knocked me out so much I gave it in before I was 20!

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
13 days ago

Sort of pleasantly surprised you’re not more condemnatory friend. I’m prone to chain smoking when playing chess online, because of the stress caused by the cheating and behaviour of many now. I’m a very powerful, natural, chess player so attract the attention of their ilk.

Remembered who Simon is, have no issues with him either and have noticed troubling undercurrents here at times. Personally think they might be due to the ever increasing pressures of these dark times.

Noticed Sabi uses several identities too, this truly is my only id here. Well, like some others here, it would be pretty obvious it’s me whatever else i called myself. Still not smoking friend, please pray for me i can stay strong.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
13 days ago

Also, sometimes i wonder just how many people really post on such forums, experience déjà vu frequently.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
12 days ago

That made me smile!

It’s a mistake to think that the Christian life is one of total asceticism and censoriousness-we just as good as shut ourselves up in a monastery!

There is “a liberty in Christ”, see Luke 4:18, Rom 8:21, 1 Cor 8:9, 1 Cor 10:29, James 1:29 etc.!

There was a time when the (true) believer “walked according to the course of this age” (Gr) Eph 2:2.

To be “born again” is to be set free from Satan’s bondage-to see the world as it truly is. What is “fun”? It merely means to be distracted from the Truth, as the devil would have us be, look up any good dictionary.

The apostolic admonitions are to “be transformed by the renewing of your mind” Rom 12:2, and “to grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.” 2 Peter 3:18.

Justification happens in an instance (the thief on the cross), sanctification is a life long process, and even the most sanctified saint, if he were to live to well over a 100 still has sin dwelling in him! (Rom 7:18).

Regarding wine, I used to think why would Jesus convert the water into wine if it were so bad for us? As I said, it is moderation, but also, some can drink more than others. I can drink a bottle of wine and not even feel slightly tipsy, but then I’m a big man, some, with just a couple of glasses and they’re done! As a kid I downed a large bottle of Southern Comfort in one go, just for the crack-cor! what a headache I had! Same with food, some eat little, others eat much, nothing new here, just as it was in the wilderness with the manna (Exodus 16:16-18).

Again, “Let no man therefore judge you in food, or in drink.” Col 2:16.

People breathed in smoke back then, the priests certainly did when they were burning the sacrifices! I’m not sure when pipe smoking started, it was early.

I don’t like it today, smokers are marginalised and made to feel like lepers-go stand over in that compound over there if you want to smoke!!!

Oh! what about this vaping? Some look possessed while they are doing it- how harmful is this?

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Islander
12 days ago

If you want to reduce your smoking, if you are on 40 a day, why not go down to 20, then 10-progressively?

My father literally used the last embers to light up the next one!

I remember the case of a man that had health problems, his doctor said if he didn’t pack up smoking, he’d die. He did pack it in, and weeks later died…

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
12 days ago

Love the fact you’re a realistic believer Islander, found it really helpful to me. Think we view God as more approachable than some do, also think he has a great sense of humour, some of his creations definitely suggest that to me.

Really don’t think the Lord is all thou shalt not either friend, tried the cutting down approach before but always backslid. Went for cold turkey this time and so far, i’m surviving.Enjoy wine and craft ales sometimes but smoking can really be my boss, which i loathe. Felt motivated to go for quitting Sunday afternoon and haven’t caved yet. So hoping what happened to that guy was coincidence…. What the…?! Think the big guy upstairs had your back when you sank that bottle of Southern Comfort friend, done a few daft things myself and haven’t completely grown out of them either.

Think vaping is a manufactured trend to cause massive harm friend, i’d choose my pack of baccy (not straight ciggies) over vaping anytime.

Going to spend some time with my little cat, she really wants some attention. Lovely chatting with you friend and real cheers for your down to earth approach, instead of making things look like a mission and a half.,

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
12 days ago

When I said I was “a kid”, I did that stunt-in my early 20’s. Sometimes I wonder-I have had that many near-misses, not only of the motor bike kind!

Fell into bad company-shared a flat with a man who did 25 years for murdering a fellow flat mate (made national news at the time). Shared needles-got registered as a heroin addict so I could get methadone. I’ve been round the block, a thief and an adulterer…

But, praise God, I somehow landed on my feet as it were and made a go of things -earning 30k a month by the late 80s.

I made a lot of money-but I blew nearly all of it before I came to faith aged 40.

I started doing the rounds looking for the right church-somehow I just couldn’t fit in anywhere-there seemed to be no real substance-especially in my first BAPTIST UNION church-heck they had a drum beating band playing in there-and a minister promoting Harry Potter books-I kid you not! And strangely enough, they’d be those sweet old lady types (Christians all their lives) making tea afterwards that couldn’t see anything wrong with all this-strewth! I had a real go at the minister…

We should be “realistic” as you rightly say-not optimistic, or pessimistic.

As a premillennial believer, I’m pessimistic about how this age will end, but eternally optimistic about the age to come!

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
11 days ago

Top of the morning friend and we are still kids in our early 20’s, just THINK we know it all.

We all have done stuff which makes our blood run cold later friend. Think my big problem was worse, used to read tarot cards, cast horoscopes for people etc back then. When i started doing those things for myself too, realised something ain’t right here.

“And strangely enough, they’d be those sweet old lady types”

Think there are very few belief systems which encourage personal responsibility friend. Most seem to be this ritual will sort this issue, this one that etc but don’t think that’s how it works now.

So far, only looked at Premillennial belief on gotquestions, my go to site friend. Will investigate further but really seems there’s good reason to believe it:

https://www.gotquestions.org/premillennialism.html

Ditto your final point too friend, so grateful for your help in waking me up. Happy to say i still haven’t smoked despite having nearly nine full packs of baccy in the flat, really hope i don’t cave. There are far worse things one can do than smoke but think it’s an essential issue for me personally, to sort out.

Hope you have a lovely day friend and we chat again soon.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
11 days ago

My late mother used to seek fortune tellers and whatnot-very sad:( She’d tell me that she asked them about my future and such things-but I’d just shut it all out, I didn’t know why, but intrinsically I knew it wasn’t right-it is satanic-the Bible utterly condemns it. Leviticus 19:31, 2 Kings 21:6, Isaiah 8:19-20, to name but just a few-look them up.

Thank you for your feed back on the account in 2 Kings 5-re Naaman the leper.

You ought to read the account of how God gave Israel their first king (Saul). Saul thought he was looking for his father’s lost asses, but unbeknown to him, he was sent to Samuel to be anointed king of Israel! (1 Samuel 8ff).

But, didn’t that end in a sad way? You see, the people asked for a king-God gave them one; the same will happen in a future day when they will receive antichrist, Saul being a type of…

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
11 days ago

Know what friend, think women are more prone to that kind of influence, with men it’s a greater tendency to anger/violence. Just my opinion.

Can’t thank you enough for all these scripture references you post, often answer some questions of mine and promote further research too.

“You see, the people asked for a king-God gave them one;”

That sounds heavy for sure friend, will definitely research that thoroughly. Wondering if there will be another comment regarding Saul…

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
11 days ago

There isn’t a further reply, will look back in later friend.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
11 days ago

I forgot to say that the Hebrew name Sha’ul (Saul) actually does literally mean asked for!

All the Hebrew names mean something-the patriarchs, matriarchs, all and sundry, the names mean something, unlike the names in our day.

Yes, I believe you are correct to say “women are more prone…”

On the theme of the coming personal antichrist, the Lord Himself said to the unbelieving Jews, I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another (antichrist) shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. John 5:43.

I said elsewhere earlier today, this is spiritual, not logical, it will only be Christ’s elect that will not be deceived-the rest will.

Regarding the tribulation period , how can we be in it? Has the mark of the beast been rolled out, and I haven’t noticed? Besides which, is antichrist’s temple now standing in Jerusalem? I know not!

Another thing (which the vast majority of professing Christians ignore); is the literal rebuilt city of Babylon; trading as prophesied in Revelation 18? I don’t believe it is! More so, I’m sure this massive rebuilding project hasn’t yet started-though the plans are certainly in place!

Dubai was a city built in a few short years (I went there back in 2001), but the finance and energy the globalists will put into rebuilding Babylon after agenda 2025 will make Dubai look like a corner shop in comparison!

Please read Revelation 18-won’t take you more than a few minutes.

I believe you are a keen researcher-keep a watch on what is going on between the Tigris and the Euphrates-Genesis 11:8 says in no uncertain terms, they left off to build the city.

They are, in a soon coming day about to return and complete their project…

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
10 days ago

Copying and pasting the above comment to research further, true friend that you are. That whole region has been a hotbed of evil, globalist activity for so long and seems positively seismic to me currently. Possible things could happen really fast?

Will post a further comment much later today friend, when i have a handle on some of your references. So much to learn Islander and time seems so short to me. So grateful for your help, have a lovely day and hope to see you later.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
10 days ago

Glad to see that Rhoda took that WS comment down-but didn’t she drag her feet? Maybe she didn’t like being ‘dictated’ to? Here I digress.

Regarding questions on Bible prophecy, please remember that the day we stop asking ‘silly’ questions, is the day we stop asking any questions!

I’ve asked more questions, silly or otherwise than I can care to remember? How can we learn if we don’t?

My wife used to berate me for being so studious and spending too much time reading and writing-saying “what is the point of it all?”- threatened me with divorce many times. But! Praise God, she’s now asking as many, or more questions than you are-a real 180 degree turnaround!

Because I haven’t been to any Bible colleges, and am self taught with the help of God’s Holy Spirit, this brings to mind what A.W. Pink said; “Bible colleges are breeding grounds for the devil’s children.”

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
9 days ago

Did feel horrible his malignant lies and malice poisoning the thread for so long Islander but very possible she wasn’t around for some time. He’s really delusional, thinks he’s an upholder of truth and righteousness. However, he absolutely loses the plot when challenged and goes into nuclear meltdown.

Bless you friend, you’re very informed spiritually in my opinion but have a lovely, down to earth attitude. Which is so encouraging because it makes acquiring such knowledge look achievable and interesting, not a mission.

So glad your wife has got the bug now too friend and yes, God’s Holy Spirit is the best teacher for sure. Absolutely agree with A.W.Pink, might look up a little of his thoughts before sleeping. 5 and a half days without baccy now, here’s hoping this is it friend.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
9 days ago

Some fascinating stuff in your comment friend and you’re right, i really enjoy researching so i can get a decent grasp on new knowledge for me.

“Regarding the tribulation period , how can we be in it? Has the mark of the beast been rolled out, and I haven’t noticed?”

Ah! Forgot the mark comes first but they are going for crashing the financial system, to roll out CBDCs. People are being denied access to cash by their banks in many places around the world now friend. Would appreciate more info and references from you, definitely see what’s happening now is still pre-tribulation.

Doubt it’ll make happy bedtime reading but will read Revelations 18 before sleeping friend. Truly can’t thank you enough for all the info and references, many provide a great shortcut to important information.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
8 days ago

This Charles Spurgeon sermon is a light bulb moment to me friend, have the audio and pdf:

The Bible 18th March 1855

https://www.spurgeongems.org/audio/018chs.mp3

https://www.spurgeongems.org/sermon/chs15.pdf

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
8 days ago

Very concerned for the Expose Team friend, last articles were posted on Thursday.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
8 days ago

Maybe they’re playing a game? After all the site is still up and running, and people can comment as and when, as you and I are?

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Islander
8 days ago

I don’t say this with a mean spirit if you get my gist, but I have noted there is too much overlap and duplicity in what they are doing-much rehashing as it were?

Plus the fact that most commenters here seem to now accept nothing that WE THE PEOPLE do is going to change the course of events-and they are right.

People are asking for solutions, and praise God you know the only solution is Christ our Saviour.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
8 days ago

You won’t go wrong with Spurgeon…

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Islander
8 days ago

My wife reads him every day! A.W. Pink quoted from his writings as much as he did from the puritans!

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Islander
8 days ago

Just spent the last 30 minutes reading that pdf document you put on-pure Spurgeon-a most excellent read.

My, you really HAVE come on!!!

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
8 days ago

“True liberty is not the power to live as we please—but to live as we ought.”

Don’t think truer words have been spoken by ordinary man friend, know i’ll find much to love and appreciate in the works of A. W. Pink too. That Spurgeon pdf and sermon completely touched my heart and mind, he was truly inspired by God.

If i’m developing fast spiritually it’s thanks to the Lord and advice from people like you friend. I haven’t needed to faff around/waste time on paths leading nowhere, or worse. So happy to be free from the false beliefs i held so recently and know some real truth now.

Hope you’re right the Expose team could be playing games friend but really worried the pressures of trying to keep this site going, while under such vicious attack, is too much for them currently. They’re human, do think they come from a good place but these are truly difficult times, hard to deal with.

And yes, i’ve noticed the rise in spiritual believers peopling the site, no longer afraid to call a spade, a spade. There are so many sites which promote seeking remedies within this evil system, when there are none, only God himself can save us.

Hope you’ve had a lovely, refreshing Lord’s Day friend, hope to hear from you soon.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
8 days ago

There is nothing worse than false hope.

Your spiritual growth has been been truly uplifting!

Called yourself Demeter, and would prate on about the Holy Bible being the work of man…

But, without being over zealous, have you made a confession of your faith to those nearest and dearest to you?

See Matthew 10:32-37, Luke 12:8, Romans 10:9-10, 1 John 4:2 etc.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
8 days ago

Wouldn’t say doing so has gone down like a ton of bricks friend, have made known i believe in Almighty God and he is the only one who can sort out the evil happening.

Very likely my daughter will adapt the quickest, there is some spirituality already there and she has a lot of influence with her brothers. Really want to help my family if i can friend.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
7 days ago

Yeah “ton of bricks”, I understand!

You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.

All you can do is PRAY! Pray earnestly to God that if is His will that He would open their eyes and ears…

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
7 days ago

Agree totally friend, have some hope as there’s still time but what they do is between them and God.

“All you can do is PRAY! Pray earnestly to God that if is His will that He would open their eyes and ears…”

Absolutely Islander and i do have hope but will do my utmost not to get dragged down, if they don’t make the choice i hope for. Thank you so much for all the advice and support, you are a true friend.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
7 days ago

P.S. Eight full days and still not smoked friend, which feels great as my tendency to chain smoke was a big problem.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
7 days ago

This cannot be easy-and I have prayed for you.

Painful subject, no doubt, but how many roll ups could you get through in a day?

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
7 days ago

Anywhere between 10 and 40 or so friend, when stressed i could literally light up the next with the one i was about to extinguish.

Feels really good not smoking friend, it’s freedom and i’m so grateful to our Heavenly Father for getting this far.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
7 days ago

Think i’ll try and get some kip friend, sweet dreams and blessings to you and your family for now.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
6 days ago

Posting links to the audio and pdf of my spiritual breakfast this morning friend, loved every bite:

CLIMBING THE MOUNTAIN, JUNE 16, 1861

https://www.spurgeongems.org/sermon/chs396.pdf

https://www.spurgeongems.org/audio/253chs.mp3

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
6 days ago

Hope you’re “Top of the morning!” Mrs. D!?

I absolutely have no doubt that those links provide much needed spiritual food! Oh! that more would read and listen to such rather than the world’s poison!

Following on from our conversation about euthanasia/suicide/murder. It is very hard not to have compassion on those with many and various maladies, financial problems and the like, (esp. the younger generation) who see no way out-death can seem like a desirable option-but perish the damnable thought!

I should have added, we know who the Author of LIFE is, and the author of DEATH, don’t we?

I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live. Deuteronomy 30:19.

CHOOSE LIFE!
Evil days indeed…

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
4 days ago

Top of the morning indeed dear friend, well into the habit now of early morns being for spiritual food and contemplation. So grateful to our heavenly Father for such wonderful provision, it sets me up to better deal with the trials we face.

My heart goes out to those who feel so desperate, death is what they think they need. It isn’t, we need to throw ourselves on the Lord who will help us bear anything, if we believe and trust in him and his promises. Physical/Spiritual death is all Satan and his minions have to offer, no matter how tempting he can make the path to that horrible destiny look.

So glad a message from you has shown up friend, your spiritual counsel has helped me so much. Deuteronomy 30:19 is a really powerful scripture, as you said in a recent comment on another post, there’s no coming back from choosing death.

Can you recommend a good commentary on the Gospel of John? Was looking for the link to that book site you recommended to me last year, think it’s this one:

https://www.sgat.org/

Realised they have audio and video too, more treasure to explore. Hope you have a blessed day and we chat more easily soon dear friend.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
4 days ago

Found a site where one can download Gospel of John Commentaries as PDF friend, downloaded the lengthy ones from Calvin, the one from John Wesley and the one from Matthew Henry too:

https://www.bestbiblecommentaries.com/john-commentary-free-pdf-downloads/

Also trying to find an easier to navigate copy of John Gill’s Bible Exposition. The one i’m currently using is Word doc to PDF and is really tough to navigate.

Also have the pdf version of this particular KJV study Bible:

https://www.amazon.com/Study-Bible-Large-Hardcover-Letter/dp/140167948X

Anything else you can recommend would be really welcome.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
4 days ago

I’ll get back to you later-short of time just been having a silly conversation with RW about jewellry boxes!

I wouldn’t waste time with Wesley…

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
4 days ago

“I wouldn’t waste time with Wesley…”

Burst out laughing friend, what did the poor guy do? Or didn’t? My gob is well and truly smacked, just found out Judas was the son of Simon Peter. Seriously news to me, didn’t know that before.

Bless, must take a look at that silly chat about jewelry boxes, will check this thread later.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
3 days ago

The competition is incredibly strong but love this Spurgeon sermon above all so far friend:

TRUST IN GOD—TRUE WISDOM, MAY 12, 1861

https://www.spurgeongems.org/sermon/chs392.pdf

I prefer reading rather than listening to sermons, much easier for me to grasp the beauty and worth of what is said. Copied and pasted so many quotes from this sermon, which reach/touch my heart and mind in a way so special to me.

After reading it, my thoughts and feelings are that if what we are experiencing is slavery, i pray to never be free. Hope that makes some sense friend.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
3 days ago

I’m so glad that you are reading such edifying material!

1 Corinthians 7:22-23.

I’ve not had a lot of time lately, when I have, this weekend sometime I’ll go through a little conversation I had with a professing Christian on this site to see what you think…

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
3 days ago

My first waiting for approval for a while friend, hope this post works:

Give yourself a well deserved pat on the back for that friend. You pointed me in the direction of so much wonderful material which just seems so right/cosy for me.

It truly doesn’t seem like slavery to me Islander, especially when you compare it to what the Filth are doing to us. To me it feels very like a parent/child relationship, where we want them to make some good decisions for themselves. However, there are some choices which are just beyond their ability to make good decisions, so they need our guidance to avoid much angst, or worse.

Noticed the “professing” emphasis, will check for updates. Blessings to you and yours for now.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
3 days ago

Yay! Different browser.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
3 days ago

Forgot to say still not smoked at all friend, it’ll be 12 full days in about an hour. Don’t think i’ve had any wine or craft beer in a couple of months either.

Definitely not the “thou shalt not” sort about these things but it feels good/right, my not wanting them currently.

Really hope i don’t return to smoking, i was a slave to it and that isn’t ok with me now.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
2 days ago

Don’t know if you already know this site i’ve just discovered friend:

https://www.chapellibrary.org/

Think they’re great, they run https://www.spurgeongems.org/ too, the original owner asked them to take over maintaining the site. Have downloaded their Spurgeon/Pink/Ryle Anthologies and their Free Grace Broadcaster magazines, are brilliant for articles from a range of authors:https://www.chapellibrary.org/book/yadvfg/your-adversary

Would still love to find a good spiritual community nearby for spiritual fellowship friend, however, it really helps now knowing so many wonderful sites.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
1 day ago

Afternoon Mrs. D!

This weather engineering (and fake aurora borealis) is really getting to me, we seem to have gloomy, smoggy, and unreal skies 24/7 with the occasional glimpse of sun. Living right on the coast-I can hardly make out the colour of the sea, and as for the views across to the mainland-forget it!
I don’t know how long this’ll go on for, but it it is depressing! We read a lot about chemtrailing/weather manipulation on this site, and without a doubt something is cooking up…

When you consider the evil that is on the web & so-called dark web, it is refreshing to know that such “gems” as you have found are also so easily and freely available, but alas, so few go down that path.

Glad that you are doing so well with the smoking/beer.

I think Patricia must have gone on a long holiday?

Essentially, the Holy Bible is about leading God’s elect to the way of salvation through “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” Rev 13:8, but there are those professing Christians who believe that regardless of what a believer does, just because he made a one time profession of faith, say by putting his hand up at an evangelistic meeting he is forever a child of God-cheap grace!! They forget (or rather are willfully blind!) about verses such as Hebrews 12:14, James 2:19. 2 Peter 1:9-10 etc. Charles Stanley (America evangelist) taught such, I’ll post what he said later/tomorrow on this theme.

What do you think of Robin L’s (he’s also an time rapture man!) reply to me on an article headed “Urgent Message…” May 6th? And anyway, how does a suicide repent?

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
18 hours ago

Just a quick reply now friend, much i need to find out more about in your comment. Your use of James 2:19 really made me laugh, true, pithy wisdom for sure.

The weather engineering is diabolical here too, really hear what you’re saying there friend and will look up Robin L’s reply. More from me later Islander, love and blessings to you and yours for now.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
18 hours ago

Grrr! Repost, hope this works:

Just a quick reply now friend, much i need to find out more about in your comment. Your use of James 2:19 really made me laugh, true, pithy wisdom for sure.

The weather engineering is diabolical here too, really hear what you’re saying there friend and will look up Robin L’s reply. More from me later Islander, love and blessings to you and yours for now.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
18 hours ago

Yay! It did.

The Islander
The Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
17 hours ago

I put a comment here but its gone! Will do later, God willing!

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  The Islander
16 hours ago

Ordered a print copy of what i hope will be a 1769 KJV, so i can read in comfort friend. What do you think?

KJV, Pew Bible, Large Print, Hardcover, Black, Red Letter, Comfort Print: Holy Bible, King James Version:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bible-Large-Hardcover-Burgundy-Letter/dp/0718095448/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_pd_sbs_rvi_d_sccl_2_6/258-1074947-6276713?pd_rd_w=PhKLk&content-id=amzn1.sym.0f49b2d0-6326-4aee-911a-a977f4ca7c12&pf_rd_p=0f49b2d0-6326-4aee-911a-a977f4ca7c12&pf_rd_r=07JAWSXCZQSY3XSRZ3AC&pd_rd_wg=cOKg7&pd_rd_r=0f59aeb7-24cc-4f9a-b436-2f13ad6189f8&pd_rd_i=0718095448&psc=1

Almost 15 days without smoking now friend, cravings should really lessen now, i’d be mad to give in.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
17 hours ago
Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
16 hours ago

Glory friend, was thinking the sky was almost a natural looking blue, which is very rare indeed now. However, a fleet of jets have turned up to spray their poison =) Suppose they had to allow us a little respite so temperatures could return to more natural levels.

Read that comment exchange friend, think it’s possible God will make some allowances in very rare circumstances but like you say, it seems impossible to beg forgiveness for something so crucial?

Posted a comment about the KJV Bible i’ve just ordered to your comment as The Islander, a little further down. Please let me know what you think friend.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
16 hours ago

Ouch! Comments and reposts turned up friend, hope things still make sense.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
13 hours ago

I use the 1881 INTERLINEAR BIBLE KJV- AV1611/RV1881. It is a study Bible with Gk. and Heb. plus Scripture cross references-comparing Scripture with Scripture. A.W. Pink used this Bible-these are not cheap, but the best imho!

The INTERLINEAR BIBLE was actually the first Revised Version-but sadly, today there are so many corrupted versions today that spawned from it.
The TBS (Trinitarian Bible Society) have a lot of very helpful pamphlets on the KJV.

Regarding Wesley, Paul Fahy of Understanding Ministries, quotes from one of Wesley’s writings that “he never loved God”. He has done much research on the man, and doesn’t believe he was saved, I won’t comment either way. Spurgeon, used mightily of God said of Wesley, “I believe he will be the first man I see in heaven..” Why did he say that? Both Fahy and myself agree he was unwise to say such! But, regardless, we both value Spurgeon very highly. He was only 57 when he passed and suffered from health and depression problems.

I have A.W. Pink’s Gospel of John, and on 6:71 (like all good commentators) there is no conclusive evidence to say Peter was the father of Judas Iscariot! It is interesting however that the Lord rebuked Peter saying to him Get thee behind me Satan (Matt. 16:23), and who was Judas but the son of perdition (John 17:12) the son of Satan! But, we can go no further. If you are interested, see if you can find page 365 of Pink’s Gospel of John online (I have the original copy) and read what it says about evangelistic zeal (Wesley wasn’t short of that!) and deduce what you will…

Had a bit of time this morning, there was something else, maybe later. May God be pleased to bless your studies.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
12 hours ago

Much grabbed my attention in this comment friend, i’d love a really good study Bible, such as you recommend. Could you post a link to your version? My research so far is producing iffy results, really frustrating.

Oh my! Are you saying Wesley himself said he never loved God? My jaw dropped open at that and love Spurgeon whatever, despite him thinking those with Calvinist leanings have spiritual problems. Ah! So not definite about Judas, was pretty shocked when i first saw that but it isn’t something which is really consequential.

Found Pink’s complete exposition in two useful places friend, this first link is to where it can be read chapter by chapter online:

https://biblebelievers.com/Pink/John/john.htm

This second link is also to the complete exposition but it’s one scroll through page:

https://www.gracegems.org/Pink/exposition_of_the_gospel_of_john.htm

It has printed well to an 856 page pdf, i highlighted a couple of words, right clicked them for select all, then used system dialogue to print. Works well, just need to make notes of what page i’m up to.

You are a wealth of info to a newbie like me, a much appreciated true friend.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
11 hours ago

Repost, grrr!

Did a seek for John 17:12 in the pdf exposition friend, which is on page 269 of this print. It refers to the son of perdition being lost so scripture could be fulfilled.

Sounds about right friend, just checking it is?

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
4 hours ago

The page number in Pink’s Gospel of John would be a different number to the pdf number on that document you posted-did click and look it up, and it reads the same as my print copy-that is the verse under consideration, John 6:71.
As excellent as Spurgeon is, I rate Pink far more highly, for he came after and there is much “more meat on the bones” as it were.

Pink was little known when he was alive-unlike Spurgeon, from memory some 100,000 people attended his funeral, whilst less than a handful attended Pink’s! Spurgeon has a massive granite sepulcre above his resting place, whereas Pink has an 8″ inverted clay pot above his resting place! I know, and have seen it, for I asked the man who maintains the graveyard-he told me that he gets 100s (esp. in the summer cruise season) of American tourists asking to see where he lies. Pink is big in the USA, at least among Christians!

An interesting diversion, I thought?

I must find that book with Charles Stanley’s quote…

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
3 hours ago

Glory friend, been offline for many hours, just back after a system clean and reboot, to find a very recent comment from you.

Great, really thought that pdf print is accurate, small nuisance needing to keep a page number reference, i no longer like being online if i don’t need to be. Not surprised most prefer Spurgeon, would say he’s probably more emotionally appealing, lovable so to speak.

Definitely an interesting diversion, really enjoy such snippets. It makes people like them more relatable to me, humanises them i suppose.

Would love to read what Charles Stanley actually said friend, will try a search online, have a couple of ideas which might be useful. Hope you and your family are having a lovely evening, will sort the groceries order for tomorrow, blessings to you all friend.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
1 hour ago

Here goes, Mrs. D,

Charles Stanley writes in his book Eternal Security: Can You Be Sure? (Nashville Nelson 1991)-from the chapter “For those who stop believing.”

These, I can assure you are not isolated statements.

“Even if a believer for all practical purposes becomes an unbeliever, his salvation is not in jeopardy” (p.93); “Believers who lose or abandon their faith will retain their salvation, for God remains faithful.” (p.94).

“God’s love for His people is of such magnitude that even those who walk away from the faith have not the slightest chance of of slipping from His hand… we are not saved because we have an enduring faith. We are saved because at a moment in time we expressed faith in our enduring Lord.”

I used to listen to his sermons on God TV 20 years back. He was very convincing at the time when I was a “newbie” as you like to say, but THIS IS CONTRARY TO THE PLAIN TEACHING OF SCRIPTURE!?

Any thoughts???

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
48 minutes ago

Regarding “snippets”, yes I believe “snippets” are really important-for they truly give insights!

Spurgeon knew he was a totally undone wretch outside of God’s grace! He didn’t seek any glory for himself! Perhaps his ‘greatness’ got to him whilst he was yet in the flesh?

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
3 hours ago

Mrs. D,

Posted a comment-went into the bin!

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
6 days ago

Just posted a reply-wfa (waiting for approval)!

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
6 days ago

Replied this morning-went straight to “waiting for approval”.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
5 days ago

Still not published friend, fresh online for a while now, will check again soon.

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Mrs D
5 days ago

Ooh! Forgot to mention i’m reading John’s Gospel now and pretty mind blown at how different the emphasis is, so far.

Just discovering how wonderful and loving an instruction manual the Bible is friend, this is the journey of my life.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Mrs D
11 days ago

Mrs. D, just to let you know, I posted a reply, but it is “waiting approval”!

Mrs D
Mrs D
Reply to  Islander
12 days ago

Just looked up Romans 14:22 and see what you mean, smoking doesn’t seem to be expressly condemned. However, i chain smoke when really stressed friend which isn’t good, so think it’s the right choice for me.

Oh Islander, bless your poor father’s soul, sounds like he was ill for some time which must have been horrible for you too. Really appreciate the advice you offer me, find it thought provoking without being preachy. So much appeals to my mind as well as my developing spirituality.

Feeling some cravings to smoke now so a bit “off” currently. Really want to see it through friend, hope i’ll feel more level next time we chat.

Cam Pat
Cam Pat
21 days ago

I was a lab tech in the veterinary field for 10 years. I then went into the Army as a lab tech, 68K. I have never seen any actual physical evidence that a virus exists.

Dave Owenhttps://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/for
Dave Owenhttps://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/for
Reply to  Cam Pat
20 days ago

Hi Cam Pat,
Your observation is good, the virus has not been isolated.
I worked down the coal mines, and never saw any fossils near the coal.
There was no physical evidence that coal is a fossil fuel.

Prof. Fred Nazar
Prof. Fred Nazar
21 days ago

Could you please explain why one of my kid comes back from school with a definite set of symptoms, followed by another the next day and by me the next day: how’s the terrain contagious?

What’s your best way to wake-up those who don’t want to open their eyes?

Please share your most effective wake-up strategies.
The more the awakened, the sooner this nightmare will be over!

The most effective strategy is asking about the person’s opinion on some of these topics:

I start with the 20 million dollar question, while showing videos of baby seizures (money or babies always get attention):
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/autism-day-shall-we-celebrate-the

If the person doesn’t want to discuss injections, then food is a good start:
Why is food poisoning legal?
How Rumsfeld forced the approval of Aspartame.
Artificial sweeteners, MSG, PFAS, Glyphosate … go organic!
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/why-is-food-poisoning-legal

Then I’d follow with “Are you opened to see if the actual data matches your opinion?”
Then I start showing some of the shortcomings of the Pharma industry:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/system-failure-ai-exposes-zero-government

Then, show that every single person in the planet should be suing Pfizer and Moderna for deliberately hiding human DNA in their vacicnes, and Pfizer, for injecting an undisclosed carcinogenic monkey virus (SV40) sequence into the cell nucleus of the clueless biohacked, as officially recognized by Health Canada !!!

If he doesn’t like the topic, I’d show this video (all you need is 10 secs in the middle, who doesn’t have 10 seconds for you):
https://odysee.com/@ImpossiblyWackedOutWorld:f/WTC-7-Free-Falling:8
(caveat about the beginning: pot destroys your brain + “Raises Risk of Heart Attack and Stroke”)

9/11: two “planes”, yet the third tower (WTC7) imploded, free falling on its footprint like in a controlled demolition. It was out of reach, and all 7 World Trade Center towers needed to be rebuilt, not the closer towers not belonging to World Trade Center… and the “owner” took an insurance policy for the WTC against terrorism, just months before, when no one was taking them … he didn’t show up for work precisely on 9/11 … just as his 2 grown up siblings (they never skipped work before). The inside information about the FUTURE 9/11 event helped masons make trillions by shorting the stock exchange: the records were deleted by the SEC so they wouldn’t be prosecuted !!!

Watch amazing short and more evidence here:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/911-2-planes-3-towers

Please watch all of this! Your life depends on it, because there’s a plan to murder 95% of the global population by 2050… written on the masonic Georgia guide-stones: “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 … ”:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depopulation-or-extermination

– J6: The false flag operation of the fake riot was planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!! The same mason-plot was copy-pasted to disband the insurrection against the stolen elections in Brazil! All intel agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA) were founded by masons and are run by them for their own nefarious goals.
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/j6-what-you-need-to-know

It’s such a mason manual that they organized the same J6 play in Brazil when it was proven that the voting machines owned by mason Soros, were rigged:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-2020-american-coup
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/dominion-over-us

All political parties are compromised/infiltrated. For example, Italy supports vax pass and WHO Pandemic Treaty !!! Meloni’s Government! People voted her for being against that!
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/italy-endorsed-vax-pass-and-who-pandemic

– At least since the 90s, vaccines are weaponized to reduce the population, for example:
1. Adding hCG to infertilize women: lab detected in 30 countries
2. Overpassing the FDA 10 ng limit to human DNA “contamination” by 2000%, thus causing neuro-damage (autism, asperger, tics, dyslexia in 29% of kids, etc.) and childhood cancer epidemic (n.b. leukemia, non-Hodgkin’s lymphomas)
Check soundchoice.org or videos at bottom after this page:

Free 100 redpill movies and documentaries:
(don’t miss the 1st one, 10 min at 2x, an amazing tool to start a discussion):
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos

– COVID was designed as a primer for even more lethal COVID haccines:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-real-covid-timeline
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/not-vaccine-not-gene-therapy-just
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/what-do-bioweapons-have-to-do-with

– You’ll go nowhere and you’ll be happy:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/2050-youll-go-nowhere-and-youll-be
Elon’s top secret: EVs cause cancer
Go green with gasoline!
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/electric-vehicles-cause-cancer

– It’s genocide for depopulation:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depop-vaccines-no-myth

– Their main source of power apart from sin-empowered demons? NOT a coincidence that the USA left dollar convertibility to gold in 1971, precisely triggering the exponential government deficit coupled with the trade deficit and inflation.
This is the Achilles’ heel of all nations: masonic and satanic secret societies counterfeit paper money and launder trillions with which they buy Banks, seats in the Federal Reserve (the only private run Central Bank in the world), political careers and parties, puppeticians, listed corporations, media, healthcare corporations and organizations, universities, foundations, judges, etc.:

Depopulation or EXTERMINATION? (finest quotes):
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depopulation-or-extermination

Confessions of illuminati, David Rockefeller (finest quotes):
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/david-rockefeller-illuminati

Ex illuminati Ronald Bernard: how the world REALLY works
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/confessions-of-illuminati-ronald

Attali illuminati (“finest” quotes)
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/attali-illuminati-finest-quotes

The way out of this mess:

1. Create an easy system for real money: private currencies/warrants based on real assets, goods, services, etc. (gold, corn, oil, distance/volume/weight transportation, labor human hour/minute, etc.)

2. Ban legal tender. Let the free markets decide which real-currencies/valuables/warrants they prefer to trade with

3. Ban paper-backed currencies (unlike real-backed ones of point 1.)

4. Enforce a Legal Banking Reserve of 100% of deposits (so banks don’t create money based on air) and therefore there’s no excuse for a Central Bank, because there would be no risk of bank-runs since all their loans are fully backed with deposits

Anything else you might think of?

Now, are you really ready for this?:

The full PLAN exposed:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-plan-revealed

16 laws we need to exit Prison Planet
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/laws-to-exit-planet-prison

President John Quincy Adams: “Masonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong – essentially wrong – a seed of evil, which can never produce any good.”

If you are a mason or know a mason, ask him to ask his 33° master to put in writing and sign it, who is “the great architect” and that he is not Lucifer. If he refuses, then he’ll know who he is really serving, Satan: tell him to get out of masonry NOW. Sooner or later he’ll be required to trample on a cross to get to a higher degree.

Confessions of a former mason (Serge Abad-Gallardo):
https://www.ncregister.com/interview/confessions-of-a-former-freemason-officer-converted-to-catholicism

Confession of 33rd degree master mason – Masons worship deities/demons
https://rumble.com/v294ksc-words-from-33rd-degree-master-mason-rare-video-masons-worship-all-sorts-of-.html

Masonry’s Satanic Connection
https://odysee.com/@HiddenTruths:c/Masonry's-Satanic-Connection:4

Masonry’s Satanic Doctrine | From Their Own Books
https://rumble.com/v2wg24a-masonrys-satanic-doctrine-from-their-own-books.html

Do Freemasons Worship Lucifer? Evidence They Don’t Want You To See
https://odysee.com/@John_4-14:a/Do-Freemasons-Worship-Lucifer%EF%BC%9F-Evidence-They-Don't-Want-You-To-See-%EF%BD%9C-Hidden-Agendas—Walter-Veith:0

Satanic Ritual Abuse and Secret Societies [1995] [VHS]
https://odysee.com/@thisworldworks:1/satanic-ritual-abuse-and-secret-societies-1995:3

Satanic Pedophilia Torture and Blood – Dark Satanic Secrets Revealed
https://odysee.com/@Gmail.com:52/822821884_Satanic-Pedophilia-Torture-and-Blood—Dark-Satanic-Secrets-Revealed:4

UNITED NATIONS LUCIFER AND THE LUCIFER TRUST
https://odysee.com/@dynosarus:c/UNITED-NATIONS-LUCIFER-AND-THE-LUCIFER-TRUST:4

Freemasonry: 100% incompatible with Christ
https://rumble.com/vs9mxb-heres-why-christianity-is-totally-incapatable-with-freemasonry.html

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