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In 2009 The Telegraph published an article titled ‘Planned recession’ could avoid catastrophic climate change’.  This suggestion was made by Kevin Anderson of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research.

At the moment the UK is committed to cutting greenhouse gases by a third by 2020.

However, a new report from the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research said these targets are inadequate to keep global warming below two degrees C above pre-industrial levels.

The report says the only way to avoid going beyond the dangerous tipping point is to double the target to 70 per cent by 2020.

This would mean reducing the size of the economy through a “planned recession”.

Kevin Anderson, director of the research body, said the building of new airports, petrol cars and dirty coal-fired power stations will have to be halted in the UK until new technology provides an alternative to burning fossil fuels. [emphasis our own]

‘Planned recession’ could avoid catastrophic climate change, The Telegraph, 30 September 2009

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Kevin Anderson holds the Zennström professorship at Uppsala University and is chair of energy and climate change at the School of Mechanical, Aerospace and Civil Engineering (MACE) at the University of Manchester.

Anderson engages widely across all tiers of government (UK and Sweden) on issues ranging from shale gas, aviation and shipping to the role of climate modelling (IAMs), carbon budgets and ‘negative emission technologies. His analysis previously contributed to the framing of the UK’s Climate Change Act and the development of national carbon budgets.

In 2011, climate alarmist Anderson predicted ‘‘if you have got a population of 9 billion by 2050 and you hit 4 degrees, 5 degrees or 6 degrees, you might have half a billion people surviving … 4oC by 2050-2070 looks “likely” (could be earlier and on the way to 6oC +).”

In 2012, he said had done without a fridge for 12 years, but recently relented and joined the very small proportion of the world’s population that has a fridge. Adding: “This I may have to reverse!” Anderson also said he had cut back on washing and showering. “That is why I smell, yes,” Anderson told Climate Depot when confronted at a press conference at the 2013 UN Climate Summit in Warsaw.

Ahead of the 2013 UN Climate Summit in Warsaw, Anderson outlined a radical plan to hold temperatures to a 2C rise, although there’s no mention of a planned recession, the alarmist’s message is the same as in 2009:

A 4C rise, which is looking increasingly realistic, would be “catastrophic” and must be avoided at all costs, he now says that political and personal efforts should be concentrated on changing the consumption patterns of the very few who emit the most.

[Industrialised] countries need a 70% reduction in emissions consumption in 10 years to give us an outside chance of holding temperatures to a 2C rise. They need to cut emissions by 10% annually. We need to be fully de-carbonised in the 2020-30s, and that means planes, fridges, everything [must emit far less].

Make the rich change their ways to avoid a 2C rise, says top scientist, The Guardian, 21 November 2013

Professor Dr. Richard Tol, the author of Working Groups I, II and III of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (“IPPC”), tweeted his response to The Guardian article:

In an essay published the week after the Warsaw summit, on 25 November 2013, Anderson asserted “… for a reasonable probability of avoiding the 2°C characterisation of dangerous climate change, the wealthier (Annex 1) nations need, temporarily, to adopt a de-growth strategy.”

As highlighted by Tom Nelson, in an email exchange between Christian Kremer of the European Peoples Party and Phil Jones, Jones said the 2oC was “plucked out of thin air.”

Read more: ‘A planned economic recession’: Global warming prof. Kevin Anderson – who has ‘cut back on showering’ to save the planet – asserts economic ‘de-growth’ is needed to fight climate change, Climate Depot, 25 November 2013

Warsaw UN Summit Degenerates into Unscientific Claims to Advance Political Agenda

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said Typhoon Haiyan was due to climate change. The Philippine’s lead negotiator Yeb Sano at the UN climate summit in Warsaw announced: “he will not eat during the conference until a meaningful agreement has been achieved.”  Jeffrey Sachs, a special advisor to Ban Ki-moon, said “climate liars like Rupert Murdoch and Koch Brothers have more and more blood on their hands as climate disasters claim lives across the world.” The typhoon fuelled calls for Global Warming Compensation Funds as poor nations “blame countries that industrialised 200 years ago for damaging the atmosphere.”

Meteorologist Dr. Ryan Maue said: “Over the past 1,000 years, Philippines have been hit by 10-20 thousand tropical cyclones. Don’t be so arrogant to believe man caused Haiyan” and demolished claims that Typhoon Haiyan was the “strongest storm ever.” Haiyan ranks at number 7 among the strongest storms ever to have hit the Philippines.

Prof. Roger Pielke Jr. said: “The scientific evidence does not presently support claims of attribution of the effects of greenhouse gas emissions on tropical cyclone behaviour with respect to century-long trends much less the behaviour of individual storms.”

Gabe Vecchi, a research oceanographer with NOAA, said that if global warming altered Haiyan, it did not do so to a significant extent.

Bjorn Lomborg said that facts don’t support that climate change caused Typhoon Haiyan.

The IPCC’s authoritative Fifth Assessment Report in September 2013 stated there had been “no significant observed trends in global tropical cyclone frequency over the past century.”

Pielke Jr. said: “Given this data, substantial research on it and a strong IPCC consensus does anyone really want to debate that typhoon disasters have become more common?”

Read more: UN Climate Summit Rejects Its Own Science – Links Typhoon Haiyan to Global Warming – UN Summit Degenerates Into Unscientific Claims to Advance Political Agenda, Climate Depot, 19 November 2013

How is this all relevant to today?

Anderson is still pushing the “plucked out of thin air” 2oC narrative. In 2020 Michael Flammer tweeted:

In 2021, Anderson told Democracy Now, that “at the current emissions we have 8 years and even for an outside chance, that’s at 1.5oC, we only have 14 years.”  What the climate protestors are doing, locally, is much more in line with what “the scientists” are calling for, he said.

So, what are the protestors doing? Here are some examples:

As Anderson said, what local protestors are doing is much more in line with what “the scientists” are calling for. The last in the above list ties back to Anderson’s claim that the “plucked out of thin air” 2oC will be the end of humanity.

Through tears, Just Stop Oil protester Laura Norton said: “I am so frightened and I don’t know how we’re not all panicking. Our children might not live to 30 because there won’t be a habitable planet anymore. “People have to stop oil or we’re going to see the end of human-kind.”  There were nine protestors at the scene. “We’re very cold… some of us will be wearing adult incontinence pants, some of us will be taking Imodium, so it’s uncomfortable,” Norton said.

Just Stop Oil tried to gain more support by asking those who were suffering from the cost-of-living crisis to stand with them – which would then make it a cost-of-living protest not a “climate change” protest.  It’s fair to say, Anderson has not garnered much support for his ideology that the world has 8-14 years left.

The featured image includes a cartoon ‘Mr. Stinky’ copied from Climate Depot

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Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
1 month ago

Whilst you are looking back – why not look at the last 50 failed ‘scientific’ climate change predictions?
https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-years-of-failed-doomsday-eco-pocalyptic-predictions-the-so-called-experts-are-0-50/

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biggrump
1 month ago

Ask yourself this. If carbon dioxide is so bad for the planet, why do food producers pump it into their greenhouses? It increases the yield of their plants. Life on our planet is carbon-based and far from being bad for the planet the opposite is true. Carbon dioxide causes a very small percentage of any greenhouse effect. The biggest culprit is water vapour which accounts for the vast majority of greenhouse warming.

MIKE CROSS
MIKE CROSS
Reply to  biggrump
1 month ago

DON’T USE THE WORD CULPRIT FOR WATER VAPOUR..WITHOUT IT THE PLANET WOULD BE AN ICEBALL AND NONE OF US WOULD HAVE EVER EXISTED … WARM IS GOOD COLD IS BAD WHY DO WE QUOTE OUR BODY TEMPERATURE NORM TO A FRACTION OF A DEGREE THAT’S HOW SENSITIVE WE ARE.WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO SURVIVE ANY NATURAL CHANGE BUT THE BRAIN DEAD POLITICIANS CAN’T MANAGE IT

GundelP
GundelP
Reply to  MIKE CROSS
1 month ago

They don’t want to manage, they sold their ‘souls’. Everything going on the way of their agenda, including this article.

They want to share humanity to 2 groups, sovereign (no rules at all) commoners (the rest 7 billions) with rules like max 1000 USD worth amount you can have if you behave (means boosters and anything they want you to do while living in a killer ‘smart’ city and being dumbed by Metaverse and drugs, that worm Schwab’ lead advisor openly told it – look for the video)

Sovereigns: politicians, very rich people, influencers like the so called (not so) opposition media), actors (Nicole Kidman eating worms in front of cameras) will be sovereigns.

By the way, they are the stupidest ever, trusting the top-in-the-shadow’ honesty. What a joke. But they took their side and that side is for misleading us and killing us.

Research after the leaked sovereign list and what’s happening will make sense, dots connected.

GundelP
GundelP
Reply to  biggrump
1 month ago

Carbon dioxide means lush! vegetation, the present level is already too low for plants, it means they develop poorly if at all.

While I don’t believe in Icke’s reptiles (souls or else) or aliens one thing is sure the parasitic elite is totally lunatic, for control and domination they are ruining the earth itself.

These are the same people (and read after it! important to the puzzle) who committed Operation Dominic and Operation Fishbowl. I am not religious and there are plenty of things I still don’t understand or not fully but one thing is sure, the people who control our present world and lives are evil and MAD, we are in the hand of rich psychopaths.

While I have an opinion about it, I never really cared about the shape of the earth because it has no direct effect on my life. However – they care – by any mysterious reason and very care about that what we think and know.

youtubeDOTcomSLASHwatch?v=BI1fn4ETGXY

The ruling elite is like a .. I don’t know… anyway, have a look at this, all of their important studies based on a FLAT EARTH, ALL OF THEM:

youtubeDOTcomSLASHwatch?v=BI1fn4ETGXY

Why does it matter? Because they keep us in the DARK while killing us and while working hard to make the earth to a place where we just can’t survive.
If you think this is made up, then think twice, think how they conned you to have the TAGGING clot shot, how the NASA (together the ‘we are suc enemies) countries lied about moon landing. How these same countries lied about a pandemic to inject you with graphene oxide an nanotech for tagging you and killing easily (your MAC is the cross on you).

The problem is not an imaginary global warming (in fact based on yearly average it is a global cooling) but their agenda which ruins EVERY LIFE, humans, animals, plants.

Please do you research, we are running out of time.

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Islander
Islander
Reply to  GundelP
1 month ago

Our Earth is not a spinning ball; it is flat; rather geocentric, as opposed to heliocentric; the damnable Copernican theory that held sway sway under the popes through the Hegelian dialect- set the agenda that we are now all under. Millions, nay billions of miles=billions of years. Without the rehashed ancient Greek ‘wisdom’, evolution would never have took hold. This period was known as the Dark Ages when the popes were busy burning Bibles and keeping the masses steeped in ignorance and superstition.
Has anything changed?

Mark Deacon
Mark Deacon
1 month ago

If Kevin Anderson is so sure of his beliefs he should be demanding the wealthiest cease all private jet transport immediately and also rationing military jet fuel.

A private jet produces 1000x+ in one year more CO2 emissions than I do as an average but this is never addressed. Also their security details they drag around with them is a burden on CO2 emissions.

There is so much excess CO2 production in the top 1% that would be the easiest too cut if we rationed CO2 emission with consumption allowances.

On top of that those with 1 or 0 childrern should get extra because once they are dead their CO2 production is halved and with no children legacy C02 emissions is zero.

But of course the elites are into culling the free sh!t army of socialists.

GundelP
GundelP
Reply to  Mark Deacon
1 month ago

You are right but the CO2 is not a problem it is a made up BS, literally, more CO2 means more vegetation – which in exchange – produce more oxygen for us. CO2 is the way to a healthy earth.

GundelP
GundelP
1 month ago

Let’s summarize it, a very likely shill – with long credential (which doesn’t mean he can be a bought trusted voice) – babbling about global warming and the rest…

Meantime the parasitic elite is so worried that almost 1000 private planes arrived to Davos and they just love to buy properties on sea level, beach front and islands. Those are the same people who can get unbiased honest opinion about climate as they already paid the ‘scientists’, no reason to lie to them.

As about global warming and climate change, read about TEXAGEDDON, just an example for harsh weather modification.

The DM was so happy today reporting that some places there were proper rain. The glitch that those places are not the places where the food comes from to your table. I know because we – an agricultural area – got just 2 minutes polka-dot rain, literally, not made up.

Nigel Watson
Nigel Watson
1 month ago

The inflationary depression coming this winter is engineered. The globalists need inflation to justify bringing in CBDCs replacements. My take is that inflation in Britain is high, but it’s not as high as they would have liked at this stage. This is why people like Martin Lewis are trying to garner support for more money printing help schemes. Last week, Martin Lewis was calling for the UK government to provide more ‘help’ to British households who will struggle to pay their heating bills this winter. Back in March 2020, Lewis also called on the government to ‘help’ households via furlough, help-out-to-eat-out, bounce-back loans, etc. These ‘help’ schemes were financed by getting the Bank of England to print the extra currency needed. The cost of living crisis that we’re currently in is a DIRECT CONSEQUENCE of the money printing and the lockdowns that took place two years ago. So, what is Martin Lewis calling for now? Answer more government ‘help’, which will result in even more inflation. Trying to ease an inflation problem via printing money is like trying to put out a fire by throwing petrol on it. Martin Lewis attended the London School of Economics, so surely he should know all about the inflationary consequences of printing money to finance government spending programmes? This begs the question: is Mr Lewis really on your side?

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