It is now clear that AIDS was the first attempt to convince the world that everyone was threatened by a new pandemic. It was a trial run for covid-19 – the rebranded flu.
(For the record I don’t believe that covid-19 was man-made. It is simply the ordinary flu with a marketing budget. But, as I have explained elsewhere, it suits the conspirators to encourage the myth that it came from a lab in China.)
At the time, I was allowed to write articles and make MSM broadcasts questioning the size of the threat. It was only afterwards that the suppression started. The potential impact of AIDS was wildly exaggerated by the mainstream media and by bodies such as the BMA and the RCN.
Today, the AIDS myth is kept going by describing patients in Africa who have tuberculosis as suffering from AIDS (check it out if you don’t believe me). Today, the conspirators and the CIA have weaponised my opposition to the lies about AIDS. But how many people do you know with AIDS?
This essay is taken from Vernon Coleman’s Betrayal of Trust which was first published in 1994. A new paperback of the original edition of Betrayal of Trust is available from the bookshops on www.vernoncoleman.org and www.vernoncoleman.com
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From the way that journalists and politicians have dealt with the AIDS story you might imagine that the virus causing this disease was a completely mystery; that it had arrived from nowhere and that doctors and scientists were now struggling, shoulder to shoulder, to find a cure. That isn’t quite true. AIDS, like so many other modern diseases, was created by man. And to medical researchers AIDS has been more of a financial bonanza than a deadly target to be eliminated.
No one is sure exactly where the virus causing AIDS came from (if, indeed, AIDS is caused by this single virus – there is, at the time of writing, considerable controversy over this though the scientific community, which has an enormous vested interest in the now traditional HIV-AIDS theory, is reluctant even to accept that AIDS may have some other cause). There are, however, several theories about the origin of AIDS and these theories all have one thing in common: they all suggest that the disease originated as a result of laboratory experiments.
Under normal, healthy, natural circumstances there are barriers which prevent the spread of viruses from one species to another. Human beings are not normally vulnerable to viruses which afflict dogs or cats, for example. But scientific researchers, deliberately transferring viruses between species, have overcome this natural safety mechanism and opened up a Pandora’s box of horror that can never be sealed again. Back in 1989, writing in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine, Dr J Searle pointed out that “Viral species tend to be restricted to the host animal species which they infect” but warned that: “It would appear that the AIDS epidemic may be just one of the latest of several mammalian cross-species viral transfers triggered by the techniques of virology developed in the 20th century, which subsequently spread out of control in the new host species.”
Just when, and how, the HIV virus which causes AIDS was first installed in human beings is a mystery.
One British researcher has claimed that AIDS was introduced into the human blood pool in 1922 when at least 34 people were injected with blood from chimpanzees to see if the animal’s malarial parasites would have any effect on humans. Another 33 people received blood from this initial group and it is claimed that it was these individuals who were the first AIDS carriers.
A second possibility, reported at length in Rolling Stone magazine by writer Tom Curtis, is that the AIDS virus was injected into human patients along with the poliomyelitis vaccine. The medium that scientists used to produce the vaccine – the kidneys of monkeys caught in the wild – was found sometimes to be contaminated by monkey viruses which were then passed onto unsuspecting, innocent and usually healthy human patients. Between the mid-1950s and the early 1960s, many tens of millions of people around the world were injected with a polio vaccine that contained a monkey virus. (The virus was later claimed to make human cells prone to cancer. We’ll probably never know now whether mothers who dutifully took along their children to be vaccinated against polio were unwittingly having their children injected with cancer-inducing viruses.)
What we do know is that vaccines were administered to many people in Africa in the late 1950s. If, as has been alleged, one of the vaccines used was contaminated with an unknown monkey virus then it is, I suspect, possible that the AIDS virus may have come from that mass inoculation programme.
Sadly, I doubt if we are ever likely to know for sure whether or not the AIDS virus did originally come from a vaccination programme. Leaders of the medical establishment seem reluctant even to discuss the possibility and orthodox medical journals have dedicated little space to the study of this question. One wonders if their reluctance to investigate could be inspired by an awareness that if a link is discovered the cost to their beloved pharmaceutical industry could be unbearable; both through expensive lawsuits and through the fact that if a link is proven it might permanently frighten members of the public into refusing to accept vaccinations.
Those are by no means the only theories about how the HIV virus first came to affect human beings. But all the theories I’ve been able to find involve laboratory animals and research scientists.
Whichever animal research laboratory the AIDS virus came from there is little doubt that once AIDS had arrived on the scene the world’s pharmaceutical companies were quick to leap upon the idea of making a profit out of the disease.
It was the pharmaceutical industry, largely through its more or less total control of the medical establishment, which helped to manufacture and maintain the AIDS myth. The myth – the inaccurate assertion that AIDS was the greatest threat to mankind since the Black Death plague – began by accident, was built up for crude commercial reasons and was eventually exaggerated by pressure groups who had their own very special reasons for turning a nasty disease into a global threat. AIDS brought together several groups of people who had nothing at all in common and united them in a unique way.
In the beginning it was just a good news story: another potentially lethal disease for which there seemed to be no obvious cure available. A few well known victims – particularly film stars – gave the disease a rare glamour that enabled the feature writers to put a little spin on what was basically a rather low-key story. The drug companies quickly recognised that AIDS offered unprecedented opportunities to make money; within a short space of time, they were making millions of dollars out of selling AIDS tests and new drugs.
At the peak of the AIDS scare – in the mid-1980s – shares of companies offering AIDS-related products were rocketing skywards. In April 1987 Fortune, the American business magazine, ran a special feature entitled ‘Aids stocks worth the gamble’ in which it reported that shares in several individual companies had gone up by as much as three hundred and sixty per cent in twelve months. In the first three months of 1987, a portfolio of shares offering AIDS solutions rose by a staggering forty-one per cent.
The medical establishment stoutly supported the plague theory. In the 1980s a spokesman for the British Medical Association warned that by 1991 every family in Britain would be touched by AIDS and attacked me viciously when I quoted evidence supporting a less “scary” point of view. Other medical establishment groups jumped on the “AIDS is going to kill us all” bandwagon and the official line was defended with unprecedented ferocity. (I have fought many campaigns against the establishment but the AIDS campaign seemed to arouse particularly self-righteous, sanctimonious venom and I was mocked and vilified by many “AIDS is the modern plague” theorists.) The World Health Organisation forecast that 100 million people might be infected by the year 1990 and the Royal College of Nursing forecast that one in fifty people in Britain would have the disease by the early 1990s.
Then, with the drug industry behind the promotion of AIDS, at least four separate groups of people realised that there were advantages to be gained out of turning the story into a major international threat.
The first to realise the significance of AIDS were probably the religious activists who had for years hated the “free sex” attitudes that had survived the 60s. They quickly realised that in AIDS they had a heaven-sent opportunity to frighten people into abandoning their promiscuous ways. In the early days, much of the most terrifying AIDS propaganda came from religious pressure groups who wanted to spread their own sanctimonious message and were perfectly prepared to exaggerate the facts a little in order to scare the electorate into their arms.
Second, there were many other business groups who recognised the profit-making opportunities associated with AIDS. Insurance companies used the threat of AIDS as an excuse to push their premiums up at a far faster rate than they would have ever dared do without AIDS. Hospital and clinic managers started making money out of offering AIDS tests and AIDS counselling.
Even companies which were not directly involved greeted the AIDS scare with delight. The tobacco industry, for example, must have been extremely grateful to see pundits on television warning of a coming plague that they predicted (using figures that were plucked out of the night) might eventually kill as many as a hundred thousand Britons a year. The tobacco companies knew that cigarettes were already killing one hundred thousand Britons a year.
Naturally, politicians were not slow to take advantage of the disease. They realised that AIDS was a heaven-sent opportunity to scare the living daylights out of their electorates. Politicians love scaring people – it gives them a good excuse for introducing tough legislation that would otherwise never get passed. And conservative administrations – particularly those in power – know very well that people always vote for right-wing politicians (and for the status quo) when they feel threatened. Once they saw just how rapidly the AIDS scare campaign was growing the politicians leapt onto the bandwagon and did what they could to exaggerate the threat. Some of the advertising campaigns launched to warn the public about the threat of AIDS would have been laughed at if people hadn’t already been frightened out of their wits.
There was one final group who had a vital part to play in helping to create the AIDS myth. Right from the beginning it seemed clear AIDS was primarily a threat to homosexuals and this worried the gay pressure groups enormously. They quickly realised that if AIDS remained a predominantly “gay” disease there would be a real risk that politicians, doctors, researchers and the public would quickly tire of the disease and funds would not be made available to continue the research work that had been started. They realised that in order to keep public interest in the disease high they had to change the public perception of the disease; AIDS had to become a predominantly heterosexual disease. So, all around the world gay pressure groups worked hard at changing public perceptions. Since there are many homosexuals working in television and radio, in publishing, in journalism and in the world of entertainment the campaign wasn’t difficult to build up and within a very short time, the message had been distorted so successfully that many people really began to believe what was being broadcast.
Despite the international media blitz provided by a willing army of drug company-controlled medical journalists it had been clear from the earliest days that AIDS was not going to be a major threat to society in general.
Way back in 1987, the medical magazine Pulse reported that the “only sexual practice” likely to lead to AIDS virus infection was receptive anal intercourse. The magazine was quoting data from the San Francisco Men’s Health Study, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association. The study, of more than one thousand heterosexual, homosexual and bisexual men reported that – and I quote – “receptive anal genital contact is the major mode of transmission of HIV infection.” The report went on to say that “there was no evidence of epidemic spread due to any other sexual mode of transmission.”
This report made sense. After all, the evidence showed that AIDS was primarily a blood borne disease and whereas ordinary vaginal sex does not usually lead to damaged tissues (and therefore bleeding) anal sex does.
In 1988 the British Medical Journal published a paper entitled ‘Heterosexual transmission of HIV by haemophiliacs’.
The paper was written by three doctors from the University Hospital in Rotterdam, the Netherlands who had for three years followed thirteen haemophiliacs and their partners. Their conclusion was, – and I quote – “in the absence of other risk factors transmission of HIV from men to women by vaginal intercourse is infrequent.”
In a paper entitled ‘Human immunodeficiency virus infection, hepatitis B virus infection and sexual behaviour of women attending a genito-urinary medicine clinic’ authors from the West London Hospital, Charing Cross Hospital and Central Public Health Laboratory in London studied 1,115 women who attended a genitourinary clinic in west London. The authors reported that more than half of 424 women who said that they had non-regular sexual partners never used a condom. They also said that the two women who were seropositive for HIV who completed a questionnaire on their sexual behaviour reported that they had had anal sex.
The authors of this paper concluded that – and I quote – “heterosexual women in London are at a low risk of becoming infected with HIV.”
In another scientific paper, also published in the British Medical Journal, researchers from the London School of Economics and Political Science and St Mary’s Hospital studied prostitutes. They came to the conclusion that – and I quote from their paper – “the most important risk factor for prostitutes in the West is sharing needles and syringes for drugs.” In 1992 researchers found that fewer than 30 of 1,000 prostitutes in Glasgow were infected with the AIDS virus – all of them were injecting drug users. The researchers in Glasgow pointed out that the virus was more likely to be spread by prostitutes through the use of dirty injecting equipment than by unprotected sexual intercourse.
One of the most important papers published on the subject of AIDS was probably the one produced by the European Study Group in 1989. This was published in the British Medical Journal under the heading ‘Risk factors for male to female transmission of HIV’. The coordinating centre for this report was the World Health Organisation Collaborating Centre on AIDS in Paris and there were participating centres in Italy, Greece, the Netherlands, Germany and Spain. The authors of this report concluded – and I quote – “The only sexual practice that clearly increases the risk of male-to-female transmission was anal intercourse.” The authors went on to say that – and again I quote – “no other sexual practices have been associated with the risk of transmission.”
As it became clear that AIDS was not going to become the feared plague there were many attempts to justify the original forecasts. In some areas, it was suggested that patients suffering from cancer should be listed as AIDS victims. In others areas, it was suggested that patients suffering from tuberculosis should be included in the AIDS statistics.
Eventually, in an editorial in the British Medical Journal in the early 1990s the International AIDS Coordinator at the National Cancer Institute in the United States of America, announced that “the HIV epidemic in North America and Europe probably peaked…in the mid-1980s” while the Institute of Actuaries in Britain eventually admitted there was “no evidence to support the hypothesis of a ‘heterosexual explosion’ of AIDS or HIV infection in this country.” But by then it was too late for the AIDS myth had created a new industry of researchers, advisers and self-styled experts and newspapers were regularly carrying stories of areas where the number of AIDS counsellors exceeded the number of AIDS sufferers. By 1992 in many areas there were found to be two or three times as many AIDS counsellors as victims. Many of the under-employed AIDS experts seemed to keep themselves busy doing their very best to maintain the AIDS myth – the myth which paid their quite unjustified salaries.
Despite the evidence, AIDS was constantly promoted as a “plague.” By devoting an extraordinary amount of time to the problem of AIDS and by refusing to put forward any point of view which did not support the idea of AIDS as a major plague television caused more fear and more hysteria than anything else I can remember. It is worth remembering that by September 1987 – probably the peak year for AIDS, when it was difficult to turn on a television set without finding a programme outlining the horrors of AIDS – the official Government estimate in Britain was that eight heterosexuals had contracted AIDS through sex since 1981. Just to put things in perspective it is worth pointing out that in just two years four times as many people had died while horse riding. Instead of spending millions trying to encourage heterosexuals to wear condoms, the Government would, perhaps, have been better occupied spending its money trying to encourage horse riders to wear hard hats.
The effectiveness of the industry lobby to promote AIDS as a fearful (and therefore profitable) disease came home to me on numerous occasions in the 1980s when I was vilified for telling the truth about the disease. Guests at a dinner where I speaking as the guest of honour walked out when I dared to suggest that AIDS was not a major threat to heterosexuals. Editors who published my articles about AIDS received indignant telephone calls from self-styled experts insisting that I should not be allowed any sort of public platform for my views. I was repeatedly threatened and attacked for daring to quote the research papers which proved that AIDS was not the new plague.
By the second half of the 1980s, it had become professionally dangerous to dare to suggest that AIDS was not a killer plague. Few people in television or in publishing would even listen to a rational scientific argument.
In early 1987 I had a telephone call from a researcher for a TV company who told me that he was planning a documentary about AIDS.
‘What do you think about AIDS?’ he asked me.
I told him that I thought that AIDS was a serious problem, but it was just one of many serious medical problems and that the threat it posed had been exaggerated by some doctors, a lot of politicians and most journalists. The researcher was silent for a moment or two. I could tell by the silence that he was disappointed. It wasn’t quite what he hoped to hear.
“We’re planning a major documentary,” he said. “We want to cover all the angles. Haven’t you got anything new to say about AIDS?”
“I don’t think AIDS is a plague that threatens mankind,” I insisted. “I think it is a dangerous, infectious disease that currently affects a small number of people and that may, in the next few years, affect thousands more.” I then pointed out that I believed that the evidence about AIDS had been distorted and the facts exaggerated.
“We really want you to come on to the programme and talk about some of the problems likely to be produced by the disease,” persisted the researcher.
“I’m happy to come on to the programme and say that I think that the dangers posed by the disease have been exaggerated,” I said.
The researcher sighed. “Quite a few doctors have said that to me. But it really isn’t the sort of angle we’re looking for.”
I didn’t expect to hear from the researcher again and I didn’t. His company produced a networked television programme about AIDS that appeared on our screens a short time after that conversation and most of those who viewed it will have gone to bed thinking that AIDS was the greatest threat to mankind since the Black Death.
During the last few years, I’ve lost count of the number of times I have had that same conversation with TV researchers and producers. During the late 1980s, I received an average of three or four requests a week to appear on television. But during that same period (when countless programmes about AIDS were being made) I received no invitations to speak about AIDS on television.
Time and time again the facts about AIDS have been carefully selected to satisfy the public image of the disease (and to provide a good story) rather than to relate the truth.
When it became quite plain that the talk of plagues had been wildly exaggerated an attempt was made to maintain the myth by claiming that the disease was about to devastate Africa.
Once again, the claim was fraudulent.
The cruellest of cruel ironies must surely be that AIDS, which was almost certainly created as a result of experiments on animals, has led to the creation of a massive sub-industry devoted to using laboratory animals to try to find a cure for the disease. The research industry which has been created has consumed vast amounts of money, has inspired accusations of professional double-dealing and jealousy and has never got anywhere near to finding a cure for the disease.
Throughout the 1980s research institutes around the world who needed extra funds simply had to add AIDS onto their project titles and then sit back to wait for the cash to roll in. The AIDS industry has become vast. In 1991 the total amount of money spent on AIDS research around the world was $1,500,000,000. In 1992 it was estimated that the expenditure on AIDS research would reach $1,625,000,000. Most of that money was allocated for animal experiments. (This sum doesn’t include the vast amount collected by voluntary workers, large numbers of whom seem constantly eager to help raise money for AIDS. I wonder if they would be as keen to raise money for unfashionable but nevertheless lethal disorders such as cancer of the colon).
The AIDS story, which had begun in an animal experimenter’s laboratory, has gone full circle. In the end, the industry which had created the disease has made the greatest profit from it. Hardly a “triumph’ for medical science.”
This essay is taken from Vernon Coleman’s book ‘Betrayal of Trust’ which was first published in 1994. A new paperback of the original edition of ‘Betrayal of Trust’ is available from the bookshop on Dr. Coleman’s website.
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Love your stuff,can hardly fault it.But you are very wrong in your belief system if you think that this was an ordinary flu, all be it marketed well.
My fear is that your comment would bring under condemnation those that have suffered from this far from normal affliction
and indeed are suffering the ongoing devastating effect of it. I can assure you their are elements to this condition that are certainly anything but a normal flu.
Keep up the great work. Many thanks.
That’s how radiation work, takes time to the body to renew all of the cooked cells. Covid is the con of the milenia, they used non ionizing radiation which is invisible to lie a viral pandemic, also invisible.
That’s why 5G was an essential work while they closed us. Covid is wireless radiation interaction with graphene, which was used early in flu shots, 2018-19.
More proof and watch the date!
Parliamentary question – P-000303/2022
Time for the truth on the presence of graphene in the COVID-19 vaccines24.1.2022
Answer in writing
Priority question for written answer P-000303/2022
to the Commission
Sergio Berlato (ECR)
A recent investigation by Dr Ricardo Delgado Martin and the technical report by Dr Pablo Campra ‘Detection of graphene in COVID vaccines by micro-Raman spectroscopy’ claim that the COVID-19 vaccines contain graphene.
As reported by CORDIS in 2018, a team of researchers has proven that graphene is able to convert electronic signals into signals in the terahertz range, with trillions of cycles per second.
The silicon-based electronic components we use today generate clock speeds in the GHz range, where 1 GHz is equal to 1 000 million cycles per second. The scientists showed that graphene can convert signals with these frequencies into signals with frequencies that are thousands of times higher than those created by silicon.
Graphene is therefore able to absorb radiation, meaning that, if contained in a vaccine, it would be highly toxic and harmful to human health.
In the light of this recent investigation, does the Commission intend to have an independent laboratory perform a careful analysis to check for the presence of graphene in the COVID-19 vaccines?
Further, a 5G tower repairman found a circuit board running a program from the towers, which stated upon it, simply, CVD19. The 5G towers were placed en masses, upon the very first Covid 19 lockdowns. The 5G towers are running a Covid 19 program. They may also be used to run Tesla type, & Royal Rife type, healing frequencies which go to the cellular level.
Is that why the regular Flu, which killed many tens of thousands of people every year, for decades, not counting how many “cases” there were that didn’t kill the patient, practically ceased to exist as a cause of death, when Covid came to town???
Suggest you read Sharri Markson’s book “What really happened in Wuhan” and others proving the virus was genetically engineered through Gain of Function Research. The main players being Shi Zhengli, Peter Daszac and Ralph Baric.
The vaccine which isn’t a vaccine was developed prior to this which tells a story.
Engineered or natural, no one has a sample of it. Means your source is just another CO lying. 211 FOI requests were sent just in connection with the Sars-Cov2 isolation, no one has it.
They planted the controlled opposition early, maybe for some old folks like Coleman it’s too late to admit that they were ignorant and fooled.
What they try to moderate out from everywhere is the graphene and wireless tech’s connection. There was never a virus behind covid, just directed – safe for them – radiation.
I agree with you But keep it short simple as in The Virus IS IN The Covid-19 Vaccine.
Here’s a link Title: Why Are There 13,000 Scientists Working On An Illegal BioWeapons Program ?
Turning BioWeapons Into Vaccines Started Gaining Traction in 1982 , what I mean to clarify, The Funding Increased Tremendously by 1982 to Turn Vaccines Into BioWeapons.
The article Explains easily.
The true colours of Coleman…
Hey Coleman, what about this?
HIV is among them.
Do you think personal attacks say more about you than the person you and your message than the person you’re attacking?
If you are telling the truth, and you were confident of that, you wouldn’t need to resort to attacking the messenger – you would be able to calmly argued your case.
Too many died for being polite while they carry on murdering us with the help of those who spread false info in every possible occasion.
JaneS, you’re not fooling anyone except yourself.
Yes respect and honour for each other.have great respect for Dr Coleman,and he more than deserves that..he has been a great a source of truth and light in this dark time.
And Coleman, if you would bother nit just write but research it would help on your reputation old chap. Jon Rappoport is also an aged guy and the author of the book, AIDS Inc., which you clearly missed to read. AIDS is different kind of poisonings under one name and the first big test of the PCR testing con.
HIV never was proven to cause a thing, the chemo drug called AZT was proven to cause the fatal poisoning called AIDS. They fooled healthy homosexuals to test, then with a PCR ‘precise’ positive they persuaded them to eat AZT to live longer.
They are not even creative, they use the similar methods every time, they fool the people into fear, they vax them or drug them or cook them – Spanish flu, radio waves – then successfully kill a bunch of them blaming it on a virus.
I won’t waste my time to read anything from you from now on, same with Cole, Malone, Mercola…the list goes longer by the day.
The next message from you trolling Dr. Coleman will be deleted.
How is it trolling? I showed proof. You? Him?
I repeat, you are not fooling anyone but yourself.
More proof to you.
‘..Johnson interviews Dr. Eleni Papadopulos, “a biophysicist and leader of a group of HIV/AIDS scientists from Perth in Western Australia. Over the past decade and more she and her colleagues have published many scientific papers questioning the HIV/AIDS hypothesis…”
Here I’m publishing and highlighting excerpts from the interview. Technical issues are discussed. Grasping them is not the easiest exercise you’ve ever done, but I believe the serious reader can comprehend the vital essentials.
Christine Johnson: Does HIV cause AIDS?
Eleni Papadopulos: There is no proof that HIV causes AIDS.
CJ: Why not?
EP: For many reasons, but most importantly, because there is no proof that HIV exists.
… CJ: Didn’t Luc Montagnier and Robert Gallo [purportedly the co-discoverers of HIV] isolate HIV back in the early eighties?
EP: No. In the papers published in Science by those two research groups, there is no proof of the isolation of a retrovirus from AIDS patients. [HIV is said to be a retrovirus.]
CJ: They say they did isolate a virus.
EP: Our interpretation of the data differs. To prove the existence of a virus you need to do three things. First, culture cells and find a particle you think might be a virus. Obviously, at the very least, that particle should look like a virus. Second, you have to devise a method to get that particle on its own so you can take it to pieces and analyze precisely what makes it up. Then you need to prove the particle can make faithful copies of itself. In other words, that it can replicate.
CJ: Can’t you just look down a microscope and say there’s a virus in the cultures?
EP: No, you can’t. Not all particles that look like viruses are viruses…’
Full interview: Vaccineimpact, Does HIV exist? An explosive interview by Jon Rappoport
JaneS, Have you heard the whistleblower who said AIDS was caused deliberately by adding an ingredient to the hepatitis vaccine and then telling those who were prone to hepatitis (gays and drug users in San Francisco) that they needed a vaccine? And then, when AIDS started hitting the headlines (i.e., the marketing campaign for the “vaccine” kicked in), they deliberately injected hundreds of millions of Africans with the same “vaccine” to cause illness and death?
If you’re not famliar with it, it’s worth listening to his testimony. You should be able to find it if you look for it.
And then ask yourself if it sounds similar to the current covid injection campaign?
What people choose to call the added ingredient is irrelevant – what’s relevant is that it was made in a lab and is then injected into people. In the science world it is called a virus and so most of the public will recognise this term. There is no need to try and invent new terms or theories to avoid using the word “virus” because it does not fit in with your belief.
Another thing to note is the testimony of the AIDS whistleblower adds to to the evergrowing (circumstantial) evidence that the words “virus” and “vaccine” are interchangeable – virus is doublespeak for vaccine and vice versa. My (unprovable) belief is: this is what “there is no virus theory” is trying to stop people working out – that the “virus” is in fact the “vaccine.” “There is no virus” mantra is a ploy, a play on words, so the perpetrators avoid prosecution – they erroneously believe if they say it often enough we will blindly believe it so if it ever gets to court and the judge rules there is no virus so no crime is committed, then some (hopefully enough of the public in their minds) will agree with that judgement. And no more questions will be asked.
Are you basically telling me that they successfully poisoned a bunch of people with hepatitis vax only because they believed that hep virus was real hence accepted the vax?
I don’t have beliefs in connection the virus debate but proof only. No virus ever was isolated and proven to cause a thing.
I was merely pointing out the fact that however much we think we know, we don’t know it all. All the evidence should be taken in the round before drawing conclusions. I would try to find the testimony I referred to, it’s interesting and quite an eye opener.
“No virus ever was isolated.” I’m guessing you are relying heavily on FOI responses as evidence? Have you considered why FOI responses stated no virus has been isolated? Is it because they don’t want to provide evidence of the weapon and so are setting it up for plausible deniability in a future inquiry or court, perhaps?
This is a great conversation. Thank you. You may be interested in an uncensored think tank experiment conducted on Substack to solve the world’s problems as diverse, respectful, well meaning equals? It is free to subscribe and join. Thank you.
Rhoda. You may want to consider the merits of looking at this Solution Seeking attempt and reporting on it? Some interesting things have occurred since it started. Edward Snowden was invited to participate in an attempt to get the NSA, 5 Eyes, Russian, and hopefully other security agencies to read the concepts discussed there for maybe the first time. Substack has been sporadically somehow sabotaging the comments by placing some comments in the wrong places. Etc. Thank you.
Hi Larry, thank you. I’ve had a quick look and it seems interesting. I like the idea that the Substack page is encouraging engagement. I will take a closer look as soon as I find a bit more time.
This is a great conversation. Thank you. You may be interested in an uncensored think tank experiment conducted on Substack to solve the world’s problems as diverse, respectful, well meaning equals? It is free to subscribe and join. Thank you.
One thing cannot be disputed, that is vaccines do indeed exist. As to viruses; are not most “up the creek without a paddle” on this one, or no? As for me, the virus theory is nothing but an “old wives tale”. Period.
BTW, don’t call them “gay”, they are sodomites. I know what “gay” means, perhaps you don’t?
Hi Rhoda ,
Bravo ! ! !
Well Said !!!
The Post I’m Responding To Deserves An Encore !!!
I Totally Agree With You On This Rhoda ,
Virus is in The Vaccine ! ! !
Don’t want the virus ?
Don’t Get A Vaccine !!!
Dr. Moulden PROVED THAT ALL VACCINES CAUSE ISHEMIA Big Pharma Took Away his Medical License.
Here’s a link For Dr. Moulden.
Hey Rhoda here’s an article link OF Yours I have Pinned Into my Keyboard.
Good Article !!!
Here’s another 1 of Your Good Articles this 1 I loved the part of : Milton J Rosenau Flu Experiments in 1919 !!!
Above Link has Milton J Rosenau Flu Experiments 1919 information in the article , Very Insightful information.
I Agree With You ! ! !
Well Said: .
And I looked up Jon Rapport Has Been Writing and Exposing FAKE Pandemics and HIV AIDS Since The early 1980s,
Jon Rapport and Dr. Robert Willner Know What’s Really Going On…..
Inside this link article with video of Dr. Robert Willner is also dozens and dozens and dozens of Medical Professionals Testimonies Agreeing With Dr. Robert Willner !!!
And This Also
Jon Rapport Has Been Writing About Fake Pandemics Since the Early 1980s.
Tom Remington website
Tom is a very down to earth man.
It does me No good not to share this information,
Jane Have you ever heard of Dr. Pierre Gilbert ???
I found him when a buddy texted me 2 words: Magneto Vaccines.
Dr Pierre Gilbert Lecture in 1995 Said: It’s Not A Conspiracy Theory.
Then Dr. Pierre Gilbert said: It was Already Done ! ! !
Then he said: Think Rawanda.
“Rwanda Genocide happened in 1994.
The Dr Pierre Gilbert Lecture in 1995 About A Lipid Nanotechnology Crystal Vaccine,, This Perfectly Fits Today’s mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine. Then he said
That Will Become Mandatory 1 day.
Operation Crimson Mist Happened in Rawanda in 1994,
And Again in Iraq in 2003.
Here’s an interesting article That Will Really Show what’s going on.
The Real Joe Biden Senator Died in 1988 and an imposter look alike has been Impersonating Biden ever since 1988.
Real Face Pictures Of The Real Biden and the imposter Are in the article.
On page 2 of this link look for 1979 in the highlight link and You Will See Even Carter passed away and was Replaced with a look alike double imposter.
Considering The Secrets of The Dead United States Presidents That Mimi Spilled The Beans On , I believe those links about the imposters.
They’re Setting The Stage (World)
Thank you for these useful links, your knowledge is outstanding. I knew about Crimson Mist but not so about the rest.
Thanks for the Response, to me it’s easy finding the articles and information.
It’s difficult Sharing cause of the censorship.
Anyway Here’s the link for the Cat’s Out OF The Bag ,
Title: Vaccination Crimes
It’s a short article but gives Hope to an ending of This Scam Pandemic.
Here’s 2 video links to check out.
The shorter video has Good information under the video description.
Short Good video 6 minutes.
Super Long video But Very Well Worth Watching !!!
Let me know what you think about the videos ,
This wouldn’t post earlier.
Yes I agree, Jimmy’s Jukebox plays many of the right tunes!
Lots of opinions, info coming from all angles but best to remember, whatever you believe, we are all fighting against the same monsters, whatever delivery system they use. Stick together, we don’t have to fight amongst ourselves when we have a common enemy. Love and Peace folks
You are right but you can’t successfully fight and win if you fail to recognize the lies.
Their plan is tyranny based on medical ’emergencies’, more graphene-nanotech vaxxes, camps, hook you to the Internet of Bodies, modify your thoughts and feelings.
The only way to stop them is to KILL THE VIRUS TALE. Because of it, the truth about it has NO1 priority. They conned and poisoned 3/4 of the earth because of fear of a GERM while in reality they simply were poisoned and that’s true for the previous ‘pandemics’.
You may think we all want the same but just watch the virus blinded majority demanding to quarantine and force vax us when the first 100 die to ‘ebola’ or similar – in reality to radiation poisoning messing with blood and veins while the medical mafia is about to put them on blood thinners and statins (cholesterol fixes the walls of veins and arteries).
We are not together in this, the members of the virus church will BEND again.
On January 27 2023 the website Justice For Poland did an article , you’ll Have to look it up.
It’s title: vaccine something after posting I will go retrieve the article for ya.
Basically it says: On January 1 3023 The Biggest Business Newspaper The Wall Street Journal Reported: The Vaccinated People who had a Covid-19 Vaccine Are Immune Systems are Compromised , meaning The Cat’s Out OF The Bag !!!
The article in Justice For Poland goes on to say: Germany Stopped ALL Funding For The Covid-19 Vaccine.
It’s Only a Matter of Time before Other Countries Catch On.
Thanks for responding,
I’m try to keep it short.
Check out these 2 links.
Short Six Minutes Video.
Very Good Information.
This video is about 5 or 6 hours and 40 minutes But Very Well Worth Watching !!!
This article is about The Cat’s Out OF The Bag ,,,
This is slow first 25 to 35 minutes and then it picks up steam to a good pace.
There is no hiv virus . They were killed by overusing antibiotics , then by the medication . So this article is just propaganda , building up the virus delusion
Hi Robert, there are many theories as to what causes AIDS. The truth is many things cause AIDS, including the covid injections. So the accusation of “propaganda” is entirely inappropriate.
I’m not taking sides when I say : Rhoda said in an earlier post comment: It’s A Play On Words.
Look Up Dr. Robert Willner Explains HIV AIDS Lies and Fraud The BEST !!!
I kid you Not.
When You UnderStand The Lies and Fraud of HIV AIDS,
Then You WILL UNDERSTAND The Lies and Fraud of COVID-19.
Here’s a link of Dr Robert Willner with video of Dr Robert Willner also in the article.
Plus Dozens and Dozens and Dozens of Medical Professionals Testimonies Agreeing With Dr Robert Willner.
A very helpful and fascinating article. Thank you.
I was born in ’91. Two people, out of everyone I have ever met have shared with me that they have AIDS. The thing about the whole AIDS/tuberculoses situation that I find wild is that when you compare the symptoms, they look pretty much the same. The same goes for a couple other diseases. I realized this within the first year of the pandemic. It was this that actually got me interested in the idea of terrain theory. When you read about the mechanisms and symptoms of many diseases, you find more similarities than not. Which, if terrain theory is a better model to follow, would explain why people who live alone still get sick when they havent had interactions with other people. It would also explain why generally illnesses arent passed from one species to the next. And several other questions that have been left unanswered, when it comes to illnesses. I believe there is a lot more “truth” in terrain theory. Perhaps its not a perfect theory, but when you consider the effect that things like vitamin d have on us, it makes more sense that it is the terrain that is the star of the show, and perhaps viruses really arent what were being told. I mean, until recently, the technology hasnt been there for us to actually take a good look at things close up. All the viruses we encounter look the same. Which if they allegedly mutate the way they do, you wouldn’t think they would be all so similar in appearance. Unless of course, they arent actually viruses, but are something else instead.
I see ya have a good attitude and I just wanted to share a few thoughts on what ya said.
First I’m born 1966 , Chinese new year of The Horse and the horse converts to Virgo in American astrology.
Your year of birth ya said is 1991 which is The Goat and Converts to Libra in American Astrology, you can look up this up may take some digging.
Anyway I dabble in astrology and Technically The 3 Wise Men Used Astrology To Follow The Star To Find Baby Jesus !!!
You are correct vitamin D is important and comes from Sun and food.
Here’s the kicker most Old people who live alone have become frail and lost muscle strength from lack of exercise, but what I’m getting at is: Fresh Air !!!
The Human Body Needs Fresh Air.
Old become afraid in old age and never open their windows or doors for fresh air.
Then their house or apartment starts stinking from the toilet being flushed , and farting , Oprah back in the said the human body farts 16 times a day at minimum, it helps moves our bowels along.
Anyway What I’m getting at is
Here’s a Link no 2 links on Germ Theory,
Pay Attention To The Part On Milton J Rosenau Flu Experiments in 1919.
Eye Opening & Amazing Information That’s True !!!
Watch The Video of it’s either 45 or 57 minutes video, I forget currently right now.
I say that cause there’s 3 videos in the article.
This link video covers how Even The Black Plague Was Lies and Fraud.
Take a look at other posts of comments I made on this article and look at Dr Robert Willner Explains HIV AIDS Lies and Fraud The BEST !!!
Aew Heck Here’s the link.
Good To see you using Critical Thinking Skills HellKitten.
Have you heard about the theory that certain stars had certain frequencies and you need to be outside to absorb their influences? New to me but found it interesting.
Here’s a link of link Dr. Lanka article about how all viruses are Not What We Been Told , But he even discusses HIV AIDS But to me Dr Robert Willner Explains HIV AIDS Lies and Fraud The BEST.
Let me know if you Want More links to know What’s Really Going On ,
I have about 20 Links Pinned Into my Keyboard alone.
The Bible Says Be As Wise As A Serpent , meaning so you Stay out of harms way from the enemy.
Hi If you want The Truth OF What HIV and AIDS was / Is look up Dr. Robert Willner 1994.
Dr. Robert Willner Explains HIV AIDS Lies and Fraud The BEST !!!
In 1994 Dr. Robert Willner Called Fauci A Criminal.
When You UnderStand The Lies and Fraud of HIV and AIDS,
Then You WILL UNDERSTAND The Lies and Fraud of COVID-19 !!!!
HIV AIDS was Traced To The Smallpox Vaccine First , Then once people Caught on They Used The Hepatitis B Vaccine to Inject it into people, and Finally once people Caught on again they Used The AZT medicine To Kill People or weaken their immune system.
Look Up Dr. Robert Willner 1994.
Here’s a Great link article with Video of Dr. Robert Willner Explaining the Lies and Fraud clearly and Easily !!!!
Some people claim Dr. Robert Willner died from a heart attack 2 years later not 3 months in a car crash.
Want HIV AIDS Truth look up Dr. Robert Willner 1994
Have you seen The Viral Delusion? Talks about COVID, Spanish Flu, AIDS and other so called ‘Viruses’. Have we been indoctrinated into Pasteurism and Germ Theory when the reality may well be something else but not as lucrative? https://paradigmshift.uscreen.io
Having known Dr Kapoor & his wife from the 1980s on – who manufactured AZT and knew the true “story” of HIV, we totally realize that the same deception from that time has been replayed in the present. Jon Rappoport, who wrote AIDS, Inc. in 1988, apparently did not know Kapoor, but reached the same conclusion, as did many, many other highly educated people. Granted this is a big statement, but, looked at scientifically, it is true. Will write more on this soon.
The HIV virus does not cause AIDS. in the United States. Both the the French virologist who isolated it and his American competitor agreed in 1990 that it did not cause AIDS. The German-American retro-virologist Peter Duesberg has consistently maintained that recreational drugs used by gay males are immunosuppressants and a cause of AIDS. It is Fauci who has kept pressure on the “health” establishment by controlling research grants, to go along with his HIV hypothesis which benefits Fauci’s Big Pharma patrons/masters.
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