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“We have a problem with a crisis. It’s not a crisis of climate.  It’s a crisis of common sense.  It’s a crisis of government policy.  It’s a crisis of education … Green policy leads to people dying … We are killing people with green policies,”  Professor Ian Plimer said.


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Ian Plimer is an Australian geologist and author.  He is Professor Emeritus of Earth Sciences at the University of Melbourne.  Last October he spoke at a Conservative Political Action Network (“CPAC”) Conference held in Sydney.  He titled his speech ‘Green Murder’, the same title as his book published in 2021.

“I don’t have opinions I have demonstrable facts,” he said. “These facts are validated and these facts are repeatable.”

“No one has ever shown that human emissions of carbon dioxide drive global warming.  It’s never been shown.  And if it could be shown, then you would have to show that the 97% of emissions, which are natural, do not drive global warming. Game over. We are dealing with a fraud.  That’s a scientific fraud from day one.

 “We can show that when we had natural warming, some 650 to 6 000 years later we had an increase in carbon dioxide. It’s not carbon dioxide driving temperature, it’s the exact inverse.

“We never hear about the major greenhouse gas – which is water vapour … when we evaporate water, we need energy to do that … and when you precipitate that water – as rain, snow or ice – it gives out it actually exactly the same amount that it took up as water vapour.  It is water vapour – and water, clouds, whatever form it’s in – [is] the air conditioner of our planet’s atmosphere.

“We’ve had thousands of Highly qualified imminent people predicting the end of the world.  If just one of these was correct, we wouldn’t be here. So, there’s only one type of prediction you can make which is correct.  And that is: if someone predicting the end of the world knocks on your door, [set] the dog onto them because you’ve got history on your side.

“We have a problem with a crisis. It’s not a crisis of climate.  It’s a crisis of common sense.  It’s a crisis of government policy.  It’s a crisis of education … Green policy leads to people dying … We are killing people with green policies.”

CPAC Australia: CPAC 2022 Prof Ian Plimer, 1 November 2022 (18 mins)

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Dr Susan Askew
Dr Susan Askew
10 months ago

It’s true that most ‘greenhouse’ gas is given off from the ocean as water vapour. I believe it’s also true that the scaremongering over global warming being caused by humans should be considered sceptically. (just like the scaremongering over covid). Clearly this is being driven by the corporate money making machine that stands to make billions and billions over it – just as they did through the jabs for covid. Creating a scare is a brilliant way to justify wholescale behaviour change that makes money.
Having said this, it is very important not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. It is indisputable that human behaviours are causing widespread and possibly irreversible damage to the planet including our use of plastic, which is now found inside human tissue. It is also found in massive qualities in the ocean and in fish and birds.
Similarly our throw away culture results in massive rubbish mountains being dumped in other countries. We are clearly contributing to deforestation, which affects the lives of those living in areas affected, including the non-human species who make forests their homes. We are also denuding the land of nutrients and turning it into desserts because of our farming policies and use of fertilisers. We are killing other speices through our use of chemicals including pesticides.
Sometimes it seems the Expose is arguing for capitalist, profiteering business as usual. Yet at the same time you are opposed to the lies and profiteering from the WHO and pharmaceutical company that resulted in wholesale loss of freedoms during covid. You cannot have it both ways. The same capitalist exploitation that lead to the lies during Covid and damage to people, is also responsible to the damage to the Earth, your home. If you care about your health and freedoms, you have to care about our damage to this Home, for the sake of greed and profit, and you have to change your behaviours and fight this exploitation of our Home’s resources.

Brin Jenkins
Brin Jenkins
Reply to  Dr Susan Askew
10 months ago

Never trust again those who lied promoting fear of being fried in the next few years.

john
john
Reply to  Dr Susan Askew
10 months ago

There are around 200 active volcanoes on a daily basis. A single erupting volcano produces more Co2 than what mankind has in its entirety.

Richard Greene
Richard Greene
Reply to  john
10 months ago

Complete nonsense !
The few active volcanoes provide perhaps 1% to 2% of total CO2 emissions each year. And they are irrelevant because nature (oceans, land and plants) is a net CO2 absorber, INCUDING the effect of every volcano.

Overall, 48 volcanoes were in continuing eruption status as of 9 June 2023. An eruption marked as “continuing” does not always mean persistent daily activity, but indicates at least intermittent eruptive events without a break of 3 months or more.

Bob - Enough
Bob - Enough
Reply to  Richard Greene
10 months ago

Actually you are incorrect. If Mount Etna – (which is probably the most active) even burps; it spews out more CO2 than the whole of mankind has in the last 10,000 years. Step 1 – spewing of the gasses.

However I am not sure why you started your comment (complete nonsense), as you are saying the same thing, however you have then gone onto the next stage about the natural absorption of the CO2. Step 2 – Nature says thanks and sucks them all up.

Just a little thought of mine. As we know the forests, woods, plants, oceans etc absorb the CO2 .. but the CO2 levels have allegedly gone up slightly (in ppm) – ever wondered why in the past 30 years or more, they have been adamant to cut down the lungs of the planet ? … Amazon and Asian rainforests, cut down woodlands and and…

Oh yes, last thing regards this joke of global warming. They have placed most of the temperature monitors into cities (near busy roads) AND EVEN at airports.

john
john
Reply to  Dr Susan Askew
10 months ago

Man is forced to use plastic. Forced, forced, forced. Prior to fertilizers, man used electroculture. A practice hidden and suppressed to make way for another business centred on greed and profit. Same as the plastic industry. Everything man is forced to accept, profits those doing the forcing to mans and natures detriment, .

Brin Jenkins
Brin Jenkins
10 months ago

I start by questioning the greenhouse effect. Its nothing like any greenhouse I know, its at best a blanket and water vapour is the big one stopping frost at night.

Carbon Footprint is the emotive lie. Radiation acts by vibrating molecules to transfer energy. Only infrared photons of a shorter wave length are of the resonant frequency to warm CO2 and most have been depleted in the first 20ppm.

This explains why warming declines on a log scale as CO2 increases. So that at 340ppm the pen uni wrote it up as no measurable heating was detected

That experiment nullified the Carbon Footprint hypothesis.

On vibrations and heating, consider a microwave oven, its how they function. A greenhouse stops convection with glass.

Mehmet Denek
Mehmet Denek
Reply to  Brin Jenkins
10 months ago

” Carbon footprint ” is the project of managing people by taking them under complete control. Man is “carbon”. In other words, the person to be followed is the person himself.

Richard Greene
Richard Greene
Reply to  Brin Jenkins
10 months ago

That so called experiment wss nothing more than a simple demonstration for students NOT using an accurate spectroscopy instrument that would measure the effect of CO2 above 340ppm.

You cite that student demonstration as proof CO2 has no effect above 340ppm which is false.

The actual effect of CO2 may be small above 340ppm but is not zero.

Hundreds of real scientific experiments, using infrared gas spectroscope, provide the data, includes in the HITRAN and MODTRAN databases.

Not a five-minute simple demonstration used to teach school students about CO2.

john
john
10 months ago

It’s a policy of greed and systemic criminality from those looking to fill their already burgeoning coffers. Money is not the root of all evil. It is the love of it and the greed that follows.

Annonymous
Annonymous
10 months ago

They know it’s not carbon I reckon But nuclear testing .Th3y can’t say that but the fallouts here and it’s here for thousands of years .I think that the real problem that’s scaring the crap out of them but they can’t even tell the scientists or hardly anyone .

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10 months ago

Homo sapiens are a tropical species which was only able to leave hot equatorial regions because of the development of clothing, shelter, and fire. Plant and animal species thrived in epochs warmer than today and died in cold ones.

U.K. scientists discover that sea temperatures of around 25C (77F) and a lack of permanent polar ice sheets fuelled an explosion of species diversity that eventually led to the human race.

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Richard Greene
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I’m not sure where Ian Plimer went wrong, but he has morphed into a science denier and conspiracy theory nut.

His claim that 97% of CO2 is from natural sources (so 3% would be from manmade sources) is false.

Approximately 33% of the current 420ppm of CO2 was from manmade CO2 emissions, since 1850, of about +250ppm, which after nature absorbed about 110ppm of the 250ppm, caused a +140ppm increase of atmospheric CO2 from 1850 to 2023.
There is no other logical explanation for why CO2 increased from 280ppm in 1850 to 420ppm in 2023. Only stupid people claim the manmade CO2 emissions and the rise of atmospheric CO2 since 1850 are mere coincidences.

Plimer treats that very obvious fact of life — manmade CO2 emissions were the sole cause of the rise of atmospheric cO2 since 1850 — as if he has forgotten all the science he once knew. Plimer can not be taken seriously with that false belief.

Plimer would also have us believe a +50% increase of CO2 since 1850 had no effect on the climate. That false belief claims every laboratory infrared gas spectroscopy examination of CO2, since the late 1800s, has been wrong. And at least 99.9% of scientists living on this planet are wrong about CO2 being a greenhouse gas. Plimer is claiming CO2 is not a greenhouse gas. That is a belief only possible from a tin hat conspiracy theory nutter.

Plimer wrote a good book on geology and climate change in 2009, called Heaven and Earth — I have a copy. I have no idea what happened to him since then, but he has thrown away whatever reputation he had to spout his ‘CO2 does nothing” climate science denial.

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