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On Monday, Dr. Guy Hatchard gave oral testimony to the New Zealand Health Select Committee on the Gene Technology Bill.

“We were allowed 10 minutes. The NZ First MP asked a sympathetic question at the conclusion, enabling me to finish with some unscripted points about the threat to small farmers,” he said.

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The Gene Technology Bill is broadly based on the Australian Gene Technology Act 2000.  It passed its first reading in the New Zealand Parliament in December 2024 after which it was passed to the Health Committee for examination.  The Committee invited submissions from the public which closed on 17 February 2025.  The Select Committee report is due on 18 June 2025.

In the video below, beginning at timestamp 2 hours 43 mins, Dr. Guy Hatchard presented his testimony.  You can find all video recordings of the Health Select Committee proceedings on 10 March 2025 HERE.

2025 03 10 – HE Subcommittee B (Part 1)

The following is the text of Dr. Hatchard’s oral testimony to the Health Select Committee.

Text of Our Oral Presentation to the Health Select Committee on the Gene Technology Bill

“Good Morning and thank you, Committee members. Since the formulation of the Bill, some key scientific papers have been published which upend its fundamental assumptions. I’d like to briefly summarise these in three points before taking questions.

1. SAFETY: The Bill contains an assumption of safety which is not justified by research results. It fails to take account of the possible causes of the rapidly growing incidence of serious illnesses which are overwhelming health systems around the world including ours.

A study published in the journal Food Chemistry: Molecular Sciences in 2025 is entitled ‘Metagenomics-based tracing of genetically modified microorganism contaminations in commercial fermentation products’. It found that residual genetically modified microorganism (“GMM)” contamination is present in virtually all food processing products produced via batch fermentation – the biotechnology industry standard – which then ends up in most of our processed supermarket foods. It found the alarming presence of cell division promoters, antibiotic genes and antibiotic-resistant genes in all enzymatic products it tested. Inevitable GMM contamination is currently classified as “residue” which does not need any identification on labels because it is not an “ingredient.” A doublespeak continued by the Bill which sidesteps this recently discovered potentially serious health issue and fails to safeguard or inform the public

Faced with such alarming findings, why would we want to pass a Gene Technology Bill, which allows even more tinkering with traditional foods without any red lines or discussion of labelling, traceability, specific safety testing procedures or liability for inevitable mistakes?

2. ACCURACY: The Bill is predicated on an assumption of CRISPR accuracy which is outdated and contrary to recent research results and fundamental science.

Most of us imagine that genes are as solid as the world around us, made up of distinct objects which can be swapped if one becomes defective. Rather like changing a tyre when you have a puncture. This fails to distinguish between genetic structure and function. The very very small time and distance scales of DNA are completely foreign to our waking world of experience. We have just 20,000 genes controlling trillions of functions. A study entitled ‘Gene editing of NCF1 loci is associated with homologous recombination and chromosomal rearrangements’ has revealed that at this scale many genes appear almost indistinguishable from one another or homologous. As a result, research shows CRISPR gene scissors begin to cut up, rearrange or delete genetic chromosomal structures which were not the intended target, causing potential health problems. This is not because CRISPR has been incorrectly programmed but rather the inevitable result of a fundamental property of micro matter.

3. EFFICACY: The Bill and its surrounding public relations contain an assumption of efficacy which is not justified by research results.

According to the journal Nature, CAR T cell therapy costs about NZ$820,000 per shot. 85% of patients go into initial remission but only just over half of them are still in remission at the end of the first year. A TEAM of attending well-qualified and highly paid doctors is needed to work out how far to push treatment without triggering potentially fatal cytokine release syndrome. Putting the cost beyond the reach of our public health service.

New Zealand has the second fastest growth rate of bowel cancer in the world, just behind Iceland.

As that is the case, shouldn’t our government be prioritising an education programme on lifestyle, exercise, healthy diets, fresh foods, etc.? The costs are very low and the research effect sizes of such programmes are very large, around 27% risk reduction for colorectal cancer. It doesn’t stop with cancer; benefits affect the entire health spectrum including 30% risk reduction for heart disease for example. Also reduced incidence of inflammatory and autoimmune conditions.

In another gene therapy case reported by Nature, Vertex Pharmaceuticals has revealed the full results of a clinical trial of beta thalassemia and sickle cell anaemia patients treated with a CRISPR-Cas9-based therapy which the popular press has wrongly hailed as a successful gene therapy “cure.” In all, 22 patients have received the treatment so far at a cost of NZ$5 million per patient all of whom initially experienced increased levels of haemoglobin and reduced pain. But after one year, only five of the patients had any residual beneficial effects. Vertex paid an additional NZ$85 million in patent fees for the licence to use CRISPR gene editing techniques.

In summary: health improvements are patchy at best, the costs are astronomical and unaffordable, the side effects are very serious and any benefits mostly don’t last very long.

Our overall conclusion: Gene technology remains an experimental intervention that is known to have a high-risk profile for human health and food. The genes in our first cell contain the seed of everything that we value in life – intelligence, happiness, health. No one has any idea how genes support human consciousness, the defining characteristic of life. Modify genes at your peril. Gene modification cannot be contained, recalled or remediated. The biotechnology industry needs more strict regulation, not less as the Bill proposes. Thank you.

Our Reflection after the Hearing: The Limits to Power and the Law of the Land

It was a curious process, where the committee members sat passively. They were not required to answer questions or explain their reasons for overriding the public interest and precautionary science. It is extraordinary that the government believes it can adulterate our food choices without any requirement to inform the public what is being done and to what.

There is a relationship that we all naturally enjoy with nature, this is not something that should be usurped by ignorant power seekers. Food is a gift of God to man, or if you prefer it, a gift of the laws of nature – the sun, the soil, the rains and all that this entails. Our relationship with the land is a sacred trust of care and mutual enrichment. There are countless trillions of embodied creatures or organisms with whom we share the land, the early morning light, life-giving showers and the spring winds.

As Robert Frost famously wrote in his poem The Gift Outright:

“Something we were withholding made us weak
Until we found out that it was ourselves
We were withholding from our land of living,
And forthwith found salvation in surrender.”

The government is about to make an extraordinary misstep, casting aside natural justice and assuming control of our relationship with nature. They are making an enemy of nature, seeking to alter that which keeps us alive and well. If this goes ahead, time will tell us soon enough we have taken a wrong turn from which there is no safe road to return home. The pandemic should have taught us that there is a collective responsibility to oppose the deregulation of biotechnology, otherwise, we will collectively suffer the consequences.

About the Author

Guy Hatchard, PhD, is a New Zealander who was formerly a senior manager at Genetic ID a global food testing and safety company (now known as FoodChain ID). 

You can subscribe to Dr. Hatchard’s websites HatchardReport.com and GLOBE.GLOBAL for regular updates by email. GLOBE.GLOBAL is a website dedicated to providing information about the dangers of biotechnology.  You can also follow Dr. Hatchard on Twitter HERE and Facebook HERE.

Featured image: Dr. Guy Hatchard (left).

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jsinton
5 months ago

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5 months ago

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5 months ago

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