MP Andrew Bridgen Debates Excess Deaths in Parliament, 20th October 2023

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Andrew Bridgen, MP for North West Leicestershire, after nine months of petitioning and more than 20 refusals, secured an adjournment debate in Parliament. Today the 20th of October for the first time in the UK Parliament we saw him discuss the catastrophic number of excess deaths that have occurred since January  2021.

Due to a strategic move made by the government, it was suspected that not many MPs would be in attendance as the debate had been scheduled for a Friday. and although the House of Parliament can seat 650 members, there were approximately less than 20 MPs present for this extremely important issue.

Considering many letters from constituents were sent to MPs across the country asking that they attend the debate this shameful turnout, shows that some MPs forget they are only in their role to represent the people, and they are therefore, supposed to work for us.

Nevertheless, as Andrew Bridgen stood to speak, the support from the British public was palpable. Loud cheers were heard from the crowds outside in support of the only politician in the UK to continually highlight the excessive deaths that both the government and the media have chosen to ignore.

no one cares that no one cares.

Bridgen began by stating that “we’ve experienced more excess deaths since 2021, than in the whole of 2020. Unlike the pandemic, however, these deaths are not disproportionately of the old.”

“In other words”, he said, “the excessive deaths are striking down people in the prime of life, but no one seems to care. I fear history will not judge this house kindly. Worse still to a country that is committed to free and frank exchange of views, it appears that no one cares that no one cares.”

The media have let the British public down badly according to Andrew Bridgen, and he suspects that they will let the public down again by ignoring the debate today.

You might think a debate about excess deaths is going to be full of numbers, but this speech does not have that many numbers, because most of the important numbers have been kept hidden.

Other data has oddly presented in a distorted way and concerned people seeking to highlight important findings and ask questions have found themselves inexplicably under attack.”

There was so much fear of excess deaths from that which was termed “COVID-19” However, Bridgen said that,

“Today we have substantially more excess deaths and in younger people and there’s complete and eerie silence

“The evidence is unequivocal that there was a clear increase in mortality following the vaccine rollout, Andrew Bidgen told the House, explaining also, that “There was a reprieve in the winter 2021/22 because there were fewer than expected respiratory deaths, but otherwise the excess has been incessantly and this high level.”

Some Key Points Made

  • Ambulance calls for life-threatening emergencies ranged from a steady 2,000 calls per day until the vaccine rollout, from then it rose to 2,500 daily and calls have stayed at this level since.  
  • The surveillance systems designed to spot a safety problem have all flashed red, but no one’s looking.
  • Payments for Personal Independent Payments (PIP) for people who have developed a disability and cannot work, have rocketed with the vaccine rollout and have continued to rise ever since.
  • The trial data showed that one in eight hundred injected people had a serious adverse event, meaning the risk of this was twice as high than the chance of preventing a Covid hospitalisation.
  • There were just over 14,000 excess deaths in the under 65-year-olds, before vaccination, from April 2020 to the end of March 2021. However, since that time there have been over 21,000 excess deaths in this age group alone.
  • There were nearly two extra deaths a day in the second half of 2021 among 15 – 19-year-old males,  but potentially even more if those referred to the coroner were fully included.

After more than 20 rejections before being able to raise this topic, in Parlament, Andrew Bridgen, said “At last, we are here to discuss the number of people dying.” continuing,

Nothing could be more serious. Numerous countries are currently gripped in a period of mortality and no one wants to talk about it.”

Full Transcript
Trends in Excess Deaths
Volume 738: debated on Friday 20 October 2023

2.32pm – Motion made, and Question proposed, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Mohindra.)

Andrew Bridgen  (North West Leicestershire) (Reclaim)

We have experienced more excess deaths since July 2021 than in the whole of 2020. Unlike during the pandemic, however, those deaths are not disproportionately of the old. In other words, the excess deaths are striking down people in the prime of life, but no one seems to care. I fear that history will not judge this House kindly. Worse still, in a country supposedly committed to the free and frank exchange of views, it appears that no one cares that no one cares. Well, I care, Mr Deputy Speaker, and I credit those Members in attendance today, who also care. I thank the hon. Member for Lincoln (Karl MᶜCartney) for his support, and I am sorry that he could not attend the debate.

It has taken a lot of effort, and more than 20 rejections, to be allowed to raise this topic, but at last we are here to discuss the number of people dying. Nothing could be more serious. Numerous countries are currently gripped in a period of unexpected mortality, and no one wants to talk about it. It is quite normal for death numbers to fluctuate up and down by chance alone, but what we are seeing here is a pattern repeated across countries, and the rise has not let up.

Philip Davies  (Shipley) (Con)

I commend the hon. Member for the tenacious way in which he has battled on this issue; I admire him for that. I wonder where he found the media were in all this. During the covid pandemic, every day the media—particularly the BBC—could not wait to tell us how many people had died on that particular day, without any context for those figures whatsoever, but they seem to have gone strangely quiet over excess deaths now.

Andrew Bridgen 

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. He is absolutely right: the media have let the British public down badly. There will be a full press pack going out to all media outlets following my speech, with all the evidence to back up all the claims I will make, but I do not doubt that there will be no mention of it in the mainstream media.

One might think that a debate about excess deaths would be full of numbers, but this speech does not contain many numbers, because most of the important numbers are being kept hidden. Other data has been oddly presented in a distorted way, and concerned people seeking to highlight important findings and ask questions have found themselves inexplicably under attack.

Before debating excess deaths, it is important to understand how excess deaths are determined. To understand whether there is an excess, by definition, we need to estimate how many deaths would have been expected. The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development uses 2015 to 2019 as a baseline, and the Government’s Office for Health Improvement and Disparities uses a 2015 to 2019 baseline, modelled to allow for ageing.

I have used that data here. Unforgivably, the Office for National Statistics has included deaths in 2021 as part of its baseline calculation for expected deaths, as if there was anything normal about the deaths in 2021. By exaggerating the number of deaths expected, the number of excess deaths can be minimised. Why would the ONS want to do that?

There is just too much that we do not know, and it is not good enough. The ONS publishes promptly each week the number of deaths registered. While that is commendable, it is not the data point that really matters. There is a total failure to collect, never mind publish, data on deaths that are referred for investigation to the coroner. Why does that matter? A referral means that it can be many months—or, given the backlog, many years—before a death is formally registered. Needing to investigate the cause of a death is fair enough, but failing to record when the death happened is not.

Because of that problem, we have no idea how many people died in 2021, even now. The problem is greatest for the younger age groups, where a higher proportion of deaths are investigated. This data failure is unacceptable and must change. There is nothing in a coroner’s report that can bring anyone back from the dead, and those deaths should be reported. The youngest age groups are important not only because they should have their whole lives ahead of them. If there is a new cause of excess mortality across the board, it would not be noticed so much in the older cohorts, because the extra deaths would be drowned out among the expected deaths. However, in the youngest cohorts, that is not the case.

There were nearly two extra deaths a day in the second half of 2021 among 15 to 19-year-old males, but potentially even more if those referred to the coroner were fully included. In a judicial review of the decision to vaccinate yet younger children, the ONS refused in court to give anonymised details about those deaths. It admitted that the data it was withholding was statistically significant. It said: “the ONS recognises that more work could be undertaken to examine the mortality rates of young people in 2021, and intends to do so once more reliable data are available.”

How many more extra deaths in 15 to 19-year-olds will it take to trigger such work? Surely the ONS should be desperately keen to investigate deaths in young men. Why else do we have an independent body charged with examining mortality data? Surely the ONS has a responsibility to collect data from coroners to produce timely information.

Let us move on to old people. Most deaths in the old are registered promptly, and we have a better feel for how many older people are dying. Deaths from dementia and Alzheimer’s show what we ought to expect: there was a period of high mortality coinciding with covid and lockdowns, but ever since, there have been fewer deaths than expected. After a period of high mortality, we expect and historically have seen a period of low mortality, because those who have sadly died cannot die again.

Those whose deaths were slightly premature because of covid and lockdowns died earlier than they otherwise would have. That principle should hold true for every cause of death and every age group, but that is not what we are seeing. Even for the over-85-year-olds, according to the Office for Health Improvement and Disparities, there were 8,000 excess deaths—4% above the expected levels—for the 12 months starting in July 2020.

That includes all of the autumn 2020 wave of covid when we had tiering and the second lockdown and all of the first covid winter. However, for the year starting July 2022, there were more than 18,000 excess deaths in this age group—9% above expected levels. That is more than twice as many in a period when there should have been a deficit and when deaths from diseases previously associated with old age were fewer than expected. I have raised my concerns about NG163 and the use of midazolam and morphine, which may have caused—and may still be causing—premature deaths in the vulnerable, but that is, sadly, a debate for another day.

There were just over 14,000 excess deaths in the under 65-year-olds before vaccination from April 2020 to the end of March 2021. However, since that time, there have been more than 21,000 excess deaths, ignoring the registration delay problem, and the majority of those deaths—58% of them—were not attributed to covid. We turned society upside down before vaccination for fear of excess deaths from covid, but today we have substantially more excess deaths, and in younger people, and there is a complete eerie silence. The evidence is unequivocal. There was a clear stepwise increase in mortality following the vaccine roll-out. There was a reprieve in the winter of 2021-22 because there were fewer than expected respiratory deaths, but otherwise the excess has been incessantly at this high level.

Ambulance data for England provides another clue. Ambulance calls for life- threatening emergencies were running at a steady 2,000 calls a day until the vaccine roll-out. From then, they rose to 2,500 daily, and calls have stayed at that level since. The surveillance systems designed to spot a safety problem have all flashed red, but no one is looking. Claims for personal independence payments from people who have developed a disability and cannot work rocketed with the vaccine roll-out and have continued to rise ever since.

The same was seen in the US, which also started with the vaccine roll-out, not with covid. A study to determine the vaccination status of a sample of such claimants would be relatively quick and inexpensive to perform, yet nobody seems interested in ascertaining this vital information. Officials have chosen to turn a blind eye to this disturbing, irrefutable and frightening data, much like Nelson did—and for far less honourable reasons. He would be ashamed of us.

Furthermore, data that has been used to sing the praises of the vaccine is deeply flawed. Only one covid-related death was prevented in each of the initial major trials that led to authorisation of the vaccines, and that is taking the data entirely at face value, whereas a growing number of inconsistencies and anomalies suggest that we ought not to do this. Extrapolating from that means that between 15,000 and 20,000 people had to be injected to prevent a single death from covid. To prevent a single covid hospitalisation, more than 1,500 people needed to be injected. The trial data showed that one in 800 injected people had a serious, adverse event, meaning that they were hospitalised or had a life-threatening or life-changing condition. The risk of this was twice as high as the chance of preventing a covid hospitalisation. We are harming one in 800 people to supposedly save one in 20,000. That is madness.

The strongest claims have too often been based on modelling carried out on the basis of flawed assumptions. Where observational studies have been carried out, researchers will correct for age and comorbidities to make the vaccines look better. However, they never correct for socioeconomic or ethnic differences as that would make vaccines look worse. That matters. For example, claims of higher mortality in less vaccinated regions of the United States took no account of the fact that this was the case before the vaccines were rolled out. That is why studies that claim to show that the vaccines prevented covid deaths also showed a marked effect of them preventing non-covid deaths. The prevention of non-covid deaths was always a statistical illusion and claims of preventing covid deaths should not be assumed when that illusion has not been corrected for. When it is corrected for, the claims of efficacy for the vaccines vanish with it.

Covid disproportionately killed people from ethnic minorities and lower socioeconomic groups during the pandemic. In 2020, deaths among the most deprived were up by 23% compared with 17% for the least deprived. However, since 2022 the pattern has reversed, with 5% excess mortality among the most deprived compared with 7% among the least deprived. These deaths are being caused by something different.

In 2020, the excess was highest in the oldest cohorts, and there were fewer than expected deaths among younger age groups. However, since 2022, the 50 to 64-year-old cohort has had the highest excess mortality. Even the youngest age groups are now seeing a substantial excess, with a 9% excess in the under-50s since 2022 compared with 5% in the over-75 group.

Despite London being a younger region, the excess in London is only 3%, whereas it is higher in every more heavily vaccinated region of the UK. It should be noted that London is famously the least vaccinated region in the UK by some margin. Studies comparing regions on a larger scale show the same thing. Studies from the Netherlands, Germany and the whole world each show that the highest mortality after vaccination was seen in the most heavily vaccinated regions.

So we need to ask: what are people dying of? Since 2022, there has been an 11% excess in ischemic heart disease deaths and a 16% excess in heart failure deaths. In the meantime, cancer deaths are only 1% above expected levels, which is further evidence that this is not simply some other factor that affects deaths across the board, such as failing to account for an ageing population or a failing NHS. In fact, the excess itself has a seasonality, with a peak in the winter months. The fact that it returns to baseline levels in summer is a further indication that this is not due to some statistical error or an ageing population alone.

Dr Clare Craig from HART—the Health Advisory & Recovery Team—first highlighted a stepwise increase in cardiac arrest calls after the vaccine roll-out in May 2021. HART has repeatedly raised concerns about the increase in cardiac deaths, and it has every reason to be concerned. Four participants in the vaccine group of the Pfizer trial died from cardiac arrest compared with only one in the placebo group. Overall, there were 21 deaths in the vaccine group up to March 2021, compared with 17 in the placebo group. There are serious anomalies about the reporting of deaths in this trial, with the deaths in the vaccine group taking much longer to report than those in the placebo group. That is highly suggestive of a significant bias in what was supposed to be a blinded trial.

An Israeli study clearly showed that an increase in cardiac hospital attendances among 18 to 39-year-olds correlated with vaccination, not with covid. There have now been several post-mortem studies demonstrating a causal link between vaccination and coronary artery disease leading to death up to four months after the last dose. We need to remember that the safety trial was cut short to only two months, so there is no evidence of any vaccine safety beyond that point. The decision to unblind the trials after two months and vaccinate the placebo group is nothing less than a public health scandal. Everyone involved failed in their duty to the truth, but no one cares.

The one place that can help us understand exactly what has caused this is Australia, which had almost no covid when vaccines were first introduced, making it the perfect control group. The state of South Australia had only 1,000 cases of covid across its whole population by December 2021, before omicron arrived. What was the impact of vaccination there? For 15 to 44-year-olds, there were historically 1,300 emergency cardiac presentations a month.

With the vaccine roll-out to the under-50s, this rocketed to over 2,172 cases in November 2021 in this age group alone, which was 67% more than usual. Overall, 17,900 South Australians had a cardiac emergency in 2021 compared with only 13,250 in 2018, which is a 35% increase. The vaccine must clearly be the No. 1 suspect for this, and it cannot be dismissed as a coincidence. Australian mortality overall has increased from early 2021, and that increase is due to cardiac deaths.

These excess deaths are not due to an ageing population, because there are fewer deaths from the diseases of old age. These deaths are not an effect of covid, because they have happened in places that covid had not reached. They are not due to low statin prescriptions or undertreated hypertension, as Chris Whitty would suggest, because prescriptions did not change, and any effect would have taken many years and been very small. The prime suspect must be something that was introduced to the population as a whole, something novel. The prime hypothesis must be the experimental covid-19 vaccines.

The ONS published a dataset of deaths by vaccinated and unvaccinated. At first glance, it appears to show that the vaccines are safe and effective. However, there were several huge problems with how it presented that data. One was that for the first three-week period after injection, the ONS claimed that there were only a tiny number of deaths—the number the ONS would normally predict to occur in a single week. Where were the deaths from the usual causes? When that was raised, the ONS claimed that the sickest people did not get vaccinated and therefore the people who were vaccinated were self-selecting for those least likely to die.

Not only was that not the case in the real world, with even hospices heavily vaccinating their residents, but the ONS’s own data show that the proportion of sickest people was equal in the vaccinated and the unvaccinated groups. That inevitably raises serious questions about the ONS’s data presentation. There were so many problems with the methodology used by the ONS that the statistics regulator agreed that the ONS data could not be used to assess vaccine efficacy or safety. That tells us something about the ONS.

Consequently, HART asked the UK Health Security Agency to provide the data it had on people who had died and therefore needed to be removed from its vaccination dataset. That request has been repeatedly refused, with excuses given including the false claim that anonymising the data would be the equivalent of creating it even though there is case law that anonymisation is not considered the creation of new data. I believe that if this data was released, it would be damning.

Some claim that so many lives have been saved by mass vaccination that any amount of harm, suffering and death caused by the vaccines is a price worth paying. They are delusional. The claim of 20 million lives saved is based on now discredited models which assume that covid waves do not peak without intervention. There have been numerous waves globally now that demonstrate that is not the case. It was also based on there having been more than half a million lives saved in the UK. That is more than the worst-case scenario predicted at the beginning of the pandemic. For the claim to have been true, the rate at which covid killed people would have had to take off dramatically at the beginning of 2021 in the absence of vaccination. That is ludicrous and it bears no relation to the truth.

In the real world, Australia, New Zealand and South Korea had a mortality rate of 400 deaths per million up to summer 2022 after they were first hit with omicron. How does that compare? With the Wuhan strain, France and Europe as a whole had a mortality rate of under 400 deaths per million up to summer 2020. Australia, New Zealand and South Korea were all heavily vaccinated before infection, so tell me: where was the benefit? The UK had just over 800 deaths per million up to summer 2020, so twice as much, but we know omicron is half as deadly as the Wuhan variant. The death rates per million are the same before and after vaccination, so where were the benefits of vaccination?

The regulators have failed in their duty to protect the public. They allowed these novel products to skip crucial safety testing by letting them be described as vaccines. They failed to insist on safety testing being done in the years since the first temporary emergency authorisation. Even now, no one can tell us how much spike protein is produced on vaccination and for how long—yet another example of where there is no data for me to share with the House.

When it comes to properly recording deaths due to vaccination, the system is broken. Not a single doctor registered a death from a rare brain clot before doctors in Scandinavia forced the issue and the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency acknowledged the problem. Only then did these deaths start to be certified by doctors in the UK. It turns out the doctors were waiting for permission from the regulator and the regulator was waiting to be alerted by the doctors. This is a lethal circularity. Furthermore, coroners have written regulation 28 reports highlighting deaths from vaccination to prevent further deaths, yet the MHRA said in response to a freedom of information request that it had not received any of them. The systems we have in place are clearly not functioning to protect the public.

The regulators also missed the fact that in the Pfizer trial, the vaccine was made for the trial participants in a highly controlled environment, in stark contrast to the manufacturing process used for the public roll-out, which was based on a completely different technology. Just over 200 participants were given the same product that was given to the public, but not only was the data from these people never compared to those in the trial for efficacy and safety but the MHRA has admitted that it dropped the requirement to provide the data. That means that there was never a trial on the Pfizer product that was actually rolled out to the public, and that product has never been compared with the product that was actually trialled.

The vaccine mass production processes use vats of Escherichia coli and present a risk of contamination with DNA from the bacteria, as well as bacterial cell walls, which can cause dangerous reactions. This is not theoretical; this is now sound evidence that has been replicated by several labs across the world. The mRNA vaccines were contaminated by DNA, which far exceeded the usual permissible levels. Given that this DNA is enclosed in a lipid nanoparticle delivery system, it is arguable that even the permissible levels would have been far too high. These lipid nanoparticles are known to enter every organ of the body. As well as this potentially causing some of the acute adverse reactions that have been seen, there is a serious risk of this foreign bacterial DNA inserting itself into human DNA. Will anybody investigate? No, they won’t.

Danny Kruger  (Devizes) (Con)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way; I am conscious that time is tight. I recognise that he is making a very powerful case. Does he agree that the Government should be looking at this properly and should commission a review into the excess deaths, partly so that we can reassure our constituents that the case he is making is not in fact valid and that the vaccines are not the cause behind these excess deaths?

Andrew Bridgen 

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his support on this topic. Of course that is exactly what any responsible Government should do. I wrote to the Prime Minister on 7 August 2023 with all the evidence of this, but sadly I am still awaiting a response.

What will it take to stop these products? Their complete failure to stop infections was not enough; we all know plenty of vaccinated people who have caught and spread covid. The mutation of the virus to a weaker variant—omicron—was not enough, the increasing evidence of the serious harms to those of us who were vaccinated was not enough, and now the cardiac deaths and the deaths of young people are apparently not enough either.

It is high time that these experimental vaccines were suspended and a full investigation into the harms that they have caused was initiated. History will be a harsh judge if we do not start using evidence-based medicine. We need to return to basic science and basic ethics immediately, which means listening to all voices and investigating all concerns.

In conclusion, the experimental covid-19 vaccines are not safe and are not effective. Despite there being only limited interest in the Chamber from colleagues—I am very grateful to those who have attended—we can see from the Public Gallery that there is considerable public interest. I implore all Members of the House, those who are present and those who are not, to support calls for a three-hour debate on this important issue. Mr Deputy Speaker, this might be the first debate on excess deaths 

in our Parliament—indeed, it might be the first debate on excess deaths in the world—but, very sadly, I promise you it will not be the last.

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Health and Social Care  (Maria Caulfield)

I congratulate the hon. Member for North West Leicestershire (Andrew Bridgen) on securing this important debate. I only have five minutes of this 30-minute debate to respond. I will try to cover all the points if I can.

Can I start by acknowledging that the hon. Member is correct that we have seen an increase in excess deaths in the last year? However, I disagree with his analysis, because the causes that he refers to simply do not bear out the statistics that we have. There has been a combination of factors contributing to the increase in excess deaths, including, in the last year, high flu prevalence, the ongoing challenges of covid-19, a strep A outbreak and conditions such as heart disease, which he touched on, diabetes and cancer. Because we had had virtually a lockdown of routine health services over a two-year period, many people are now coming forward with increased morbidity and mortality as a result.

I will start with winter flu. The number of positive tests last year peaked at 31.8%, the highest figure seen in the last six years. Interim analysis from the UKHSA indicates that the number of deaths in England associated with flu was far higher than pre-pandemic levels, so the excess deaths due to flu last winter are, sadly, part of the answer.

The hon. Member touched on the independent body, the ONS. Its figures show that the leading cause of death in England is still dementia, which accounts for about 10% of all deaths. It also looks at the cause of excess deaths. If we look at the figures as of June this year, the top three causes of excess deaths are respiratory illnesses, dementia and ischaemic heart disease, which is often caused by an increase in cholesterol, smoking or not having a blood pressure check. There are a number of reasons, and they are often chronic conditions that people have had for years, or in some cases for decades; they are not acute illnesses.

In the three minutes I have left to respond, I will touch on some of the points that the hon. Member made. First, on the importance of vaccination, it is very easy to say that there is a prevalence of high rates of covid vaccination in people who have died. That is correct: when 93.6% of the population have had at least one dose of the vaccine, there will be a high rate of vaccination in excess deaths. That is different from causality. I completely agree with the hon. Member that there is a high prevalence rate, but that is not the same as saying that vaccination is the cause of those deaths.

The Office for National Statistics has looked at this, and those who have been vaccinated have generally had a lower all-cause mortality rate than unvaccinated people since the introduction of the booster in 2021. A recent study in Singapore looked at unvaccinated patients who had recovered from covid, and showed that those patients had a 56% higher risk of cardiac complications a year later than those who were vaccinated. There is conflicting data on this issue, and I am not necessarily disagreeing with the hon. Member, but I think we need to have a robust conversation about it, not to assume that one side necessarily has all the answers.

I will touch on a couple of points that the hon. Member made about vaccine safety. The regulator has been taking account of those who report adverse events, and I encourage anyone who has had a side effect from any of the vaccines to use the yellow card system and report it to their GP. When those side effects have been reported, the MHRA has taken action.

In April 2021, the MHRA reacted to rare cases of concurrent thrombosis and thrombocytopenia following the AZ vaccine, which resulted in adults under 30 not being offered that vaccine.

In May 2021, that was increased to adults under 40. With regard to the mRNA vaccine specifically, following reports of a link between covid vaccines and myocarditis, the Commission on Human Medicines conducted an independent review in June 2021, which found that the incidence of that side effect was rare: between one and two cases per 100,000. When there are concerns, we absolutely must investigate them. There is no doubt about that.

We had a debate earlier this afternoon about those who have experienced rare side effects from the vaccine. We do have the vaccine damage payment scheme, which offers a payment of £120,000 if that is shown to be—

At 3.02pm – the House adjourned without Question put (Standing Order No. 9(7)).

Source Hansard.

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A huge thank you to Andrew Bridgen for not giving up!

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Elaine
Elaine
6 months ago

MP Bridgen did the due dilligence the majority in the government should have done as well but did not. Why are British leaders so uncaring about people dying?

Dave Owen
Dave Owen
Reply to  Elaine
6 months ago

Hi Elaine,
They will have bought shares in the jab pushers, whilst the price was low, then sold them when the price was high.
Most of the Government are Aliens, with no heart.
Now they just want to rub history out.

cozmik
cozmik
Reply to  Elaine
6 months ago

Maybe they’ve been paid big bucks to look the other way, i can think of no other reason they would betray us so badly.

M.dowrick
M.dowrick
Reply to  cozmik
6 months ago

They have been told to look the other way. By whom?

Watcher Seeker
Watcher Seeker
Reply to  M.dowrick
6 months ago

By whom? – see below for the video posted by Dr. John Campbell that shows the skulduggery in the Commons – MPs being ordered to leave when Andrew Bridgen stands up.

Cynthia
Cynthia
Reply to  cozmik
6 months ago

In reply to the above Bill Gates has stated openly that there are too many people on the Planet. Of course he is a EUGENETIST like his parents! People are disposable a shocking disclosure! However there is a True God who sits above the heavens and HE knows the end from the beginning!

suelou
suelou
Reply to  cozmik
6 months ago

there are payoffs, and there are threats… many ways to make people look the other way!

john
john
6 months ago

Legally, “Government” can murder it’s property. Citizens, residents and legal fictions, are the creation and property of the State.
Which is the greater psychopath?
The Government or those who pretend to be citizens, residents and legal fictions where currently, the only benefit is death if one could deem death as a Government benefit.

Kay
Kay
6 months ago

That looks like about the same number of people present when he gave an important speech about covid many months ago. Congress people in the U.S. willing to discuss the issue of sudden deaths are just as sparse.

Don’t know how many are aware that the poster child for vaccines in Israel has died of a heart attack.

Dave Owen
Dave Owen
Reply to  Kay
6 months ago

Hi Kay,
I wrote to my MP Ed Miliband, asking why he was standing back and doing nothing.
Whilst the people in Israel were being treated like Lab Rats, having the C19 fluid forced into them.
Never got a reply, never do.

Paul
Paul
6 months ago

The fact of the matter is that the Government is the peoples’ enemy

Sandra
Sandra
Reply to  Paul
6 months ago

People unfortunately don’t see it even though it is smack in their faces. I believe they call this the human condition hard to believe, it could never happen, don’t be daft they wouldn’t do that ect ect ect. The excuses are better than the truth, nothing to see here!!

cozmik
cozmik
6 months ago

Why are there hardly any MPs there for these debates?
It’s shameful that we pay for them, they do nothing and only a few turn up…do we not have hundreds that we are forced to pay for?
He is a lone fighter and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Maybe we should deduct money from their wages if they can’t be bothered to turn up for such important issues.
He asks about the media but they are bought and paid for so expect nothing from them.
We have been lied to from the start and Brigden seems to be the only one willing to put his head above the parapet…i thank you Sir.
It was stated today that the world is one billion less since the jab was rolled out…so it’s doing it’s job, thank you Gates et al.
You will be remembered for this, but not how you think.

M.dowrick
M.dowrick
Reply to  cozmik
6 months ago

Your MPs are a disgrace. Their absence from this discussion is an example of their incompetence, and lack of integrity. Their lack of care for their fellow human being an embarrassment.

Sandra
Sandra
Reply to  M.dowrick
6 months ago

Nothing to do with incompetence, these MPs that never bothered to stay and listen are the problem, they are not doing their job they are paid massive amounts off our taxes to do the will off the people.They are traitors to the people they suppose to serve! On the positive side people are now seeing it for what it really is TREASON!

suelou
suelou
Reply to  Sandra
6 months ago

The problem is that they are part of the culling of the “masses”because once in power, they got their “standing orders” from those that are really running our governments” that think they are better than us because they wangled their way into make-believe jobs, by telling citizens that they were there to represent them, and these elections were held only so the public won’t see what is really happening, and take steps!

Watcher Seeker
Watcher Seeker
Reply to  cozmik
6 months ago

“Why are there hardly any MPs there for these debates?” – they are ordered to not attend. It’s a plot. See the video posted by Dr. John Campbell of a previous speech by Andrew Bridgen where we see someone in the House of Commons telling the few members to leave when Andrew Bridgen stands up. Dr Campbell describes it as “sinister”.

“Vaccine collusion in UK Parliament?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpGcEf2yCok

Also Andrew Bridgen –

Sandra
Sandra
Reply to  cozmik
6 months ago

Worrying isn’t it that our over paid over privileged Government MPs behave in this way. Bridgen, does the people proud, don’t change Bridgen, we only have one man left standing to shine a light on the evil in our Parliament. Thank you to those very few who did their duty to the people. If people can’t see it now they NEVER will!

suelou
suelou
Reply to  Sandra
6 months ago

These death rates are concerning… but watch the healthy newborn rates in the future… they were anxious to be getting the shots into the women of childbearing age, and even all the way down to babies that are given these shots… that might possibly cause sterilization in many….

Chris C
Chris C
Reply to  suelou
6 months ago

The nanotech and spike protein may be the short-term problem, but the mRNA that alters the DNA can skip generations, and there are “black-eyed babies” appearing with superhuman powers.
Those that did this to us should all face the death penalty for Crimes against Creation, however small a part they played.

Billingsley
Billingsley
Reply to  cozmik
6 months ago

My MP Dan Carden said he couldn’t attend because he was holding consults with constituents in Liverpool but said he would read Bridgens speech in Hansard.

I doubt he will even watch the video.

That’s the extent of Labour’s support for this topic.

Andrew
Andrew
6 months ago

I noticed the BBC added straplines of misinformation to accompany the broadcast.

Rog
Rog
Reply to  Patricia Harrity
6 months ago

The BBC has received well over $30 million from the Gates Foundation. I sent 2 FOI requests but they refuse to divulge the true amount.
The Guardian has received well over $13 million from Gates.

YOU DON’T BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS

M.dowrick
M.dowrick
Reply to  Andrew
6 months ago

Turn off the bbc, msm has shown a lack of integrity throughout the past 3 years. Turn them off.

Sandra
Sandra
Reply to  M.dowrick
6 months ago

Trouble with that we have to listen to interpret their lies back into truths! Once you see it you can not unsee it!!

Sandra
Sandra
Reply to  Andrew
6 months ago

BBC the treasonous mouth of the Government, we also pay them!

Watcher Seeker
Watcher Seeker
Reply to  Sandra
6 months ago

Did you see the article The Expose did about the BBC and it’s MI5 connections?

I think it was one of these, but I don’t recall which one.

“Is the BBC the Most Corrupt Broadcaster in the World?”

https://expose-news.com/2023/04/21/bbc-the-most-corrupt-in-the-world/

“Richard D. Hall exposes BBC’s nefarious operations fronted by Marianna Spring”

https://expose-news.com/2023/06/27/bbcs-nefarious-operations-fronted-by-marianna-spring/

“The Ministry of Truth is real, led by the BBC & helped cause 20m Excess Deaths due to C-19 Vaccination”

https://expose-news.com/2023/01/30/the-ministry-of-truth-is-real/

“The Trusted News Initiative – A BBC led organisation censoring Public Health experts who oppose the official narrative on Covid-19”

https://expose-news.com/2021/08/29/the-trusted-news-initiative-a-bbc-led-organisation-censoring-public-health-experts-who-oppose-the-official-narrative-on-covid-19/

john
john
6 months ago

$38.6million Pfizer payout to father of dead son.
How many mums and dads are encouraging there jabbed sons and daughters to sue the doctor or nurse that administered the bio-weapon?
How many of the jabbed adults are suing the doctor or nurse that injected them with a bio-weapon?
With so many dying or permanently sick, this should be a priority to ensure a good quality of life for those jabbed during the duration of what life they have remaining.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/A3yuuG7CsVs6/

Pat Winter
Pat Winter
6 months ago

A group of four scientists from Canada headed by Denis Rancourt have proved beyond doubt that the excess deaths are due to the Covid jabs.

M.dowrick
M.dowrick
Reply to  Pat Winter
6 months ago

Yes we know that. MP Bridgen attempted to explain this simple bit of data tto the the parliament. But the parliament could not be bothered to attend this presentation. Do they really care that little about the citizens of this country?

Sandra
Sandra
Reply to  M.dowrick
6 months ago

His speech was off the most utter importance off all speeches of our time and Bridgen, was given this special time for them to listen to him but they refused to serve their people by not attending…shameful arrogance of them or are they complicit?!!! Could they have shares in the Vaccines I ask myself??

Chris Conway
Chris Conway
Reply to  Sandra
6 months ago

yes Sandra

Watcher Seeker
Watcher Seeker
Reply to  Sandra
6 months ago

Just look at how Andrew Bridgen had to fight to get the debate and he was attacked just for asking for an investigation. Compare that to the Lucy Letby case. After her conviction, there were many calls for an inquiry and it was quickly granted.

So, call for an investigation into hundreds of thousands of deaths – condemn the man, savage him in the media, call him an anti-vaxx conspiracy theorist (even though he took the vaxx) but call for an investigation into seven deaths (possibly a few more) and get cheered by the media and get the full support of MPs.

How can that be? The is only one answer – it’s a plot, a conspiracy by our real rulers who stay behind the curtain.

Chris Conway
Chris Conway
Reply to  M.dowrick
6 months ago

Yes!! They are only interested in how much they can make for THEMSELVES!!! & ALL the major political parties are the same,so no point in changing your allegiance to rival parties!!There are too few Andrew Bridgens in the World ,sadly

Sandra
Sandra
Reply to  Pat Winter
6 months ago

I definitely think they are, 3 people around me became Diabetic about the same time after the second jab. 2 recovered around 6 mths, one still on insulin today 2 1/2 yrs on.

M.dowrick
M.dowrick
6 months ago

The mps n the UK are a disgrace, a disappointment, shocking they would be so disinterested in the ongoing excess mortality in the UK post covid jabs.

Sandra
Sandra
Reply to  M.dowrick
6 months ago

That’s because they are not MPs at heart protecting our Nation they are mostly elite looking after their own interest!

Abigail25
Abigail25
Reply to  M.dowrick
6 months ago

What about their excess mortality? If non existent and no serious side effects either, then isn’t it likely that they knew about the unsafe content? I’d like to be a fly Bluetooth Scanner on the wall.

Rog
Rog
6 months ago

You need to look at the video after 25 minutes. A female spokeswoman talks absolute BS.

Watcher Seeker
Watcher Seeker
Reply to  Rog
6 months ago

Yes, it was cover-up bluff and avoidance of truth.

The Islander
The Islander
Reply to  Watcher Seeker
6 months ago

This is demonocracy at work!

Cynthia
Cynthia
6 months ago

I’m sure that great man Winston Churchill would stand up in the Commons and shoot from the hip to lambast a wretched Parliament with negligent and poor MPs without compass or critical thinking of the obvious. Never before, now or in the future can ANY Immunisation or injection be rolled out without many trials to see if they are effective! In the last 100 years trial and error no antidote or Vaccination has been discovered to conquer ….MALARIA. THIS COVID SCAM HAS MADE MANY BILLIONAIRES DUE TO INJECTIONS, RAT TESTS AND PCR SWABS, the latter designed by the Nobel Laureate who stated it always gives a false/positive result and NEVER designed for VIRUSES. AGAIN MADE BILLIONS FOR THE SCAVENGERS!

Sandra
Sandra
Reply to  Cynthia
6 months ago

I could be wrong? BUT I always thought that Viruses themselves couldn’t be treated by any known method so were left to run their course all health professionals could only help stabilise the human body to naturally fight the Virus where as Bacterial infections can be treated by antibiotics as I say a long time since I was nursing so things may have changed?

Abigail25
Abigail25
Reply to  Sandra
6 months ago

There are no viruses, germ theory is called. THEORY with reason, they are imaginary beings and the big pharma gravy train, also useful for silent depopulation with vax. The illnesses people experience and think they are due to virus, either natural and nature driven de-poisoning events (children illnesses) or outright poisoning caused illnesses.
Flu – mostly due to change in EMF, (sun, our radiating stuff – E-smog) but even normal smog, pesticides, herbicides cause flu like symptoms.
Polio – pesticide poisoning, metal poisoning
Small pox – most likely arsenic’

There was an excellent series about it.
https://truthcomestolight.com/the-viral-delusion-2022-docu-series-the-tragic-pseudoscience-of-sars-cov2-the-madness-of-modern-virology/

Another one – and you’ll know everything
https://truthcomestolight.com/the-end-of-germ-theory-documentary-an-easy-to-understand-step-by-step-analysis-of-the-history-of-germ-virus-theory-the-erroneous-science-behind-vaccination-a-close-look-at/

John Steeples
John Steeples
6 months ago

Debating won’t. really do anything because they’ll change it around that has died of something else and not the Injections.’cause they try to lie the way out of it all the time The oath doesn’t mean anything to the doctors. they have changed to. be a very poor lot. and not fit to be in the Profession.

Chris Conway
Chris Conway
Reply to  John Steeples
6 months ago

Totally agree John

Abigail25
Abigail25
Reply to  John Steeples
6 months ago

They were deliberately overpaid causing the greedy to choose the profession. Rockafella guys deliberately eliminated alternative medicine, there was a year 70+ natural doctors and scientists happened to die in suspicious circumstances.

They ruined Rife (the father of the first microscope able to show real time processes in the blood but dead matetial) and also the father of healing with frequencies.
They also ruined Gaston Naessens – who had made a similar microscope called somatoscope and proved that bacteria is shape-shifter, accordingly to the need of the body the smallest and intelligent particles called somatides form bacteria and even fungi, proven there are several recordings made 50+ years ago (before faking videos with CGI), he proved that the terrain theory is the true one.
Then prof Montaigner died suddenly who proved that ‘illnesses’ can be transferred(!!) via frequencies with the help of water (and you are 80% water who have a biofield), there are no jumping germs, only frequencies and poisons (bacteria is harmless but during working it also produces poisons – eg. decaying egg, bacteria recycles, salmonella. Never the fresh.

Diane
Diane
6 months ago

Andrew Bridgen is a hero. The MPs who didn’t show have demonstrated their cowardice for everyone to see. How they can look in the mirror is beyond me. And to think, before Covid, these people were walking amongst us just like regular human beings…and yet they were monsters all that time, and now we see it.

Abigail25
Abigail25
Reply to  Diane
6 months ago

Who arrived a bit late and still missing the point.
https://www.laquintacolumna.info/docs/docs/UK-laboratory-report-EN.pdf

Abigail25
Abigail25
Reply to  Abigail25
6 months ago

Page 11.
“3.Results 3.1. Description of Inclusions The analysis of all four vial contents identified objects that are similar. For ease of nomenclature and related descriptions per vaccine, these inclusions are illustrated and defined individually belowThe identified inclusions were1. Graphene nano ribbons coated with Polyethylene Glycol 2. Graphene Composite Form 1 3. Graphene Composite Form 2 4. Microcrystalline Calcite with Carbonaceous inclusions 5. Graphene Nano Forms with and without fluorescence a. Graphene nano objects b. Graphene nano scrolls”

Billingsley
Billingsley
6 months ago

Thank you again MP Andrew Bridgen for pushing to schedule a debate on excess deaths even if 98% of his fellow MPs are cowards. You are our hero.

Unfortunately his fellow MPs have been co-opted by a secretive group of global eugenicists, pharmaceutical and WEF to push experimental so called vaccines in order to reduce overall world pop without the public realising.

Watcher Seeker
Watcher Seeker
6 months ago

On the point of – “Payments for Personal Independent Payments (PIP) for people who have developed a disability and cannot work, have rocketed”.

A few months ago I watched this interview and Ed Dowd was on to it back then. He is a top fund manager, a former BlackRock fund manager, and he studies data in order to make investment decisions.

In this interview he explains how his forecasts are based on his analysis of official statistics (including UK gov’t data) and what is going on in the world.

He talks about the rise in claims for incapacity benefit. I suspect that this is the same as PIP.

He has a lot more to say and it is mainly about vaccine harm. This man isn’t a politician. He is an investment manager studying the world to decide where to invest money and so he seeks truth not bluff. He gives his views on what lies in store for the UK economy.

“CV19 Vax is a Crime & Coverup – Ed Dowd”

https://usawatchdog.com/cv19-vax-is-a-crime-coverup-ed-dowd/

Watcher Seeker
Watcher Seeker
Reply to  Watcher Seeker
6 months ago

I forgot to say that he and his team have studied the statistics for vaccine deaths and vaccine disability and the trend is rising. He sees it getting worse.

Chris Conway
Chris Conway
Reply to  Watcher Seeker
6 months ago

Yes Watcher Seeker It’s all part of “the plan” engineered by the MONSTERS!!

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
6 months ago

Tyrannical leaders, puppets of the evil globalists.
Should receive the same justice as all other tyrants..

Mania
Mania
6 months ago

Is there someone who is supposed to be the head of Parliament. Someone in charge, responsible overall?

Watcher Seeker
Watcher Seeker
Reply to  Mania
6 months ago

There is someone but we don’t know who – possibly Klaus Schwab, possibly a Rothschild.

Abigail25
Abigail25
Reply to  Watcher Seeker
6 months ago

The first is just an actor, the ‘public face’.
Eric Dubay (youtube channel) has excellently researched materials about the secret societies behind the scene. 40+ US presidents’ bloodline can be traced back to just two famous European kings, a French and an English. When monarchy didn’t work anymore, they played democracy, back then king, now president. I mean what are the chances people voting for someone all the time who is related to one of those two, ancient kings?
We’ve been fooled big time, again and again.

Watcher Seeker
Watcher Seeker
6 months ago

Just look at how Andrew Bridgen had to fight to get the debate and he was attacked just for asking for an investigation. Compare that to the Lucy Letby case. After her conviction, there were many calls for an inquiry and it was quickly granted.

So, call for an investigation into hundreds of thousands of deaths – condemn the man, savage him in the media, call him an anti-vaxx conspiracy theorist (even though he took the vaxx) but call for an investigation into seven deaths (possibly a few more) and get cheered by the media and get the full support of MPs.

How can that be? The is only one answer – it’s a plot, a conspiracy by our real rulers who stay behind the curtain.

Abigail25
Abigail25
Reply to  Watcher Seeker
6 months ago

Lucy Letby probably was a psyop (Icke), a scapegoat. Can’t recall the details but was a very interesting article about how she was used to cover others. Here.
https://davidicke.com/2023/08/24/nurse-lucy-letby-premature-baby-murders-or-miscarriage-of-justice/

Watcher Seeker
Watcher Seeker
Reply to  Abigail25
6 months ago

That is very interesting. Thanks for posting it.

Watcher Seeker
Watcher Seeker
Reply to  Abigail25
6 months ago

A thought has just struck me – “It looks damning: in every case, Letby was there. But this was horridly misleading: other casualties occurred when Letby was off duty, but these were not considered in court. Data from a freedom of information request to the hospital showed that 31 infants died in the 12-month period of Letby’s adjudged crimes, yet 23 of these were excluded from the trial” – did she have a defence lawyer? If she did then why didn’t her lawyer mention it in court?

I’m not implying anything. I seek answers that’s all, My “Seeker” name = Seeker of truth.

Even if she was a victim of a miscarriage of justice, my original point is still valid because it was not about her, it was about the difference in the reactions to the calls for an investigation or inquiry, but once again, thanks for posting it. I am keen to read more.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Watcher Seeker
6 months ago

I believe LL was/is a fall guy-a scapegoat-how could it be that LL could do all the things she was accused of on her own?
There is so much crap going on at the moment that it is impossible to sift through it all…

Abigail25
Abigail25
Reply to  Watcher Seeker
6 months ago

Of course, I understood your point. I wrote it only because I found her case interesting.
The amount of lies coming from the MSM is unbelievable.

Islander
Islander
Reply to  Abigail25
6 months ago

I’m not a fan of Icke or Dubay, but credit where it is due…

Abigail25
Abigail25
Reply to  Islander
6 months ago

Dubay is a new discovery to me. Even the opposition doesn’t like him, also he deals with things I am nowadays tend to be interested in. I think for my next holiday I download his site to read. Icke in my opinion is controlled op, 90% truth 10% diversion. But indeed that 90% can be very useful. As about Dubay, I don’t know, he looks genuine but back then I thought the same about so many inc. Icke, I think I reached the point of questioning everyone first.
(Still can’t cope with the new line of La Quinta Columna, those guys are clever, I give a chance that back then, thousands years ago there was an alien line ruling us – assumed that those carvings and drawings they found are not faked but they could be. However, that knowledge and them clearly was lost. There was a sudden jump in tech with the discovery of Antarctica, but if those aliens would have been living with us, then no explanation for the lost knowledge. Antarctica must hold the secret, even if there are other life forms, they are behind the ice wall and due to the big cycles of our earth, 26000ish years, their lands now are frozen. These warmer-cooler periods could happen fast, triggering cataclysms, also would explain that different species like giants were wandering. Eric Dubay’ material on giants looked well researched and Hollywood also put it in front of our noses, mocking on us and suggesting to avoid / fear the world beyond the wall – Game of Thrones, why it was so important for the controllers to collect and got rid of giants’ skeletons? Maori elders still remember them and remember as helpers but enemy.)

Our lives and knowledge based on complete lies.

Mark Deacon
Mark Deacon
6 months ago

With the comment layout below is somebody trying to prevent people reading what is said?Shame on the MP’s though only 20 MP’s turned out to debate the consequences of a lifetime on the population that is as bad if not worse than WW2?

biggrump
biggrump
6 months ago

If there were to be trials regarding the not safe or effective jab the majority of MPs should also be defendants because of their tacit assent to let more people die or suffer life changing injuries caused by this jab.

Chris C
Chris C
6 months ago

As much as we love Andrew Bridgen for his bravery, his estimates for the C19 injuries and deaths are a HUNDREDFOLD TOO SMALL.

He still talks as if viruses are real and harm people, when in fact we are at zero risk from their computer-generated genetic fabrications.

“Deaths from covid” included in his data are murder cases: when our elderly were euthanized since 2020 with midazolam, morphine, ventilators, deprived of food and water to scare the hell out of the public, calling it the “first wave”. Then another wave, a “casedemic” using phoney PCR “tests”.

Ironically, the evil fraudsters of virology poison and starve a piece of snot to “prove” that C19 exists.
Only 1-10% of C19 injuries and deaths are reported on the pathetic Yellow Card scheme, which is how they like it: the MHRA are genocidal communists stealing our money.

:Stuart-james.
:Stuart-james.
6 months ago

Stop registering to vote!

Paul
Paul
Reply to  :Stuart-james.
6 months ago

I believe that one has to register to vote by law, however I shall not vote again because we have a uniparty. A general election is 12 months away and it’s likely that Labour will win and be in power. It makes no difference because they are the same, pushing globalist policies just like the Tories. I recommend nobody votes because they are all evil and do not care one jot about the electorate. MPs should be working for us but they’re not and are against us in every aspect of life. Examples are the one line safety bill (it’s about censorship) and the energy bill, (the latter states the reasonable force can be used to install a smart meter in your property). There are many more.

Say no to the vote, it’s the only way we’ll get rid of them all!

chicagoizza222@gmail.com
chicagoizza222@gmail.com
6 months ago
Dave Owen
Dave Owen
6 months ago

The Rumor Mill News Reading Room

UK: Parliament Square After the Debate Following Andrew Bridgen’s Groundbreaking Speech re Excess Deaths Following COVID Vaccination
Posted By: Namaste [Send E-Mail]
Date: Monday, 23-Oct-2023 06:24:40
http://www.rumormill.news/231229

chicagopizza222@gmail.com
chicagopizza222@gmail.com
6 months ago

BREAKING – Public data shows tight correlation between vaccine uptake rates over time and excess deaths, IN MULTIPLE COUNTRIES. MP Bridgen absolutely vindicated! https://dailyclout.io/to-the-editor-shutting-down-the-correlation-does-not-equal-causation-gaslighting-tactic/

chicagopizza222@gmail.com
chicagopizza222@gmail.com
6 months ago
MindTheGap
MindTheGap
6 months ago

Hi Patricia,
can you add this transcript of MP Andrew Bridgen’s talk re Excess Deaths to this article?

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2023-10-20/debates/69C5A514-9A04-4ED7-B56B-61A3D40E3226/TrendsInExcessDeaths

thank you

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