The BBC yesterday released a recorded interview with a London Nurse. The headline they used – “It was minimally affecting children in the first wave…we now have a whole ward of children here”. The article has had over 2.6 million views at the time of writing. But it has been disputed by the Professor Russell Viner, President of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health.

The interview was carried out on BBC Radio 5 Live between Adrian Chiles and Laura Duffel, a Left Wing Activist and Chair of the ISEL Branch Team of the Royal College of Nursing, the world’s largest Nursing Union. Laura currently works as a matron at the Kings College Hospital in Children’s Ambulatory Services, as you can see here.

Ambulatory care refers to medical services performed on an outpatient basis, without admission to a hospital or other facility (MedPAC). It is provided in settings such as:

• Offices of physicians and other health care professionals
• Hospital outpatient departments
• Ambulatory surgical centers
• Specialty clinics or centers, e.g., dialysis or infusion
• Urgent care clinics

So what that doesn’t cover is intensive care for inpatients, or any care whatsoever for inpatients.

However the Matron made the following statement in her interview with the BBC –

“I think that’s what makes it so much scarier for us nurses and doctors. We have children who are coming in, it minimally affected children during the first wave, but we have a whole ward of children here, and I know that some of my colleagues are in the same position where they have whole wards of children with Covid. Twenty and Thirty-year-olds who have no underlying conditions are coming in. People that also aren’t aware of how sick they are so they’ll come into A&E with difficulty breathing thinking they’ve contracted Covid and you check their observations and they’re in a lot worse position that they realise. Because of their oxygen levels they’re not even aware, it’s kind of like they become Euphoric, they think everything’s fine but it’s just not. In intensive care you could have up to 2 or 3 very sick ventilated patients at the moment which is far beyond what you should have. Some of my colleagues across London have up to 15 adults on a Covid ward with 1 healthcare assistant supporting them. So, you don’t stop.”

You can see the interview for yourself below, but please read on afterwards as we are about to shred this Fear Mongering Claim to shreds.

The interview was first disputed by Dr Ronny Cheung, an on call consultant in London Children’s Hospitals. He tweeted the following –

Dr Ronny Cheung is a consultant paeditratician as you can see from his bio below.

But most importantly, it was fully disputed by the Royal College of Paeditrics and Child Health who responded to the released interview with a statement from their President, Professor Russel Viner which stated –

“Children’s wards are usually busy in winter. As of now we are not seeing significant pressure from COVID-19 in paediatrics across the UK. As cases in the community rise there will be a small increase in the number of children we see with COVID-19, but the overwhelming majority of children and young people have no symptoms or very mild illness only. The new variant appears to affect all ages and, as yet, we are not seeing any greater severity amongst children and young people.”

The president didn’t stop their though, he backed up his claims with witnesses –

Dr Ronny Cheung, Consultant Paediatrician, Evelina Children’s Hospital, London:

“I’ve been the on-call consultant in a London children’s hospital this week. COVID is rife in hospitals, but not among children – and that is corroborated by my colleagues across London.”

Dr Liz Whittaker, Consultant Paediatrician, St Mary’s Hospital London:

“There are lots of children with COVID positive tests, but thankfully only small numbers with severe disease or PIMS (the rare inflammatory disease associated with COVID), and these are within expected levels – given the London rates. I continue to worry for my elders, not my kids.”

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Dr Damian Roland, Consultant Paediatrician, University Hospitals of Leicester:

“I think it’s important all in child health make absolutely clear we are not seeing a nationwide wave of COVID-19 induced illness in children.”

Dr Lee Hudson, Clinical Associate Professor at the GOS UCL Institute of Child health and Consultant Paediatrician, GOSH:

“Paediatric colleagues across London tell me they are not seeing higher rates of sick children because of COVID this time. But as we’ve said to parents throughout please don’t be afraid to seek medical help if you are worried about your children.”

See for yourself here. It may be too late though to convince the 2.6 million + people who have already seen the interview otherwise. There could be hundreds of thousands of parents now fearing for the safety of their children based on a lie. The BBC have so far refused to remove the interview even though it has been called out as lies by the actual RCPH.

It’s important to note Laura Duffel is a prominent left wing activist with a history of speaking out against the government in “solidarity” with her “comrades” in the RCN Union. She is constantly campaigning for better pay for nurses and this interview has just further increased her profile, even if it is full of lies.

Here’s the evidence –

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