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In 2017, BBC aired an episode of Digging for Britain where archaeologists discovered the remains of an elephant in a Stone Age site in the eastern part of the UK. How were elephants able to survive in Britain? Because the climate was much warmer then than it is today.
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BBC Four first aired Season 6, Episode 2 of Digging for Britain, titled ‘East’, on 29 November 2017. In this episode Professor Alice Roberts explored archaeological finds from the eastern part of Britain.
The episode included the discovery of the largest collection of Roman writing tablets in Britain, which provides insights into what Roman London was like. Additionally, the episode featured a dive into the English Channel to complete the biggest marine excavation since the Mary Rose, uncovering an 18th-century East India Company ship packed with silver. Off the coast of Kent, there is also evidence of Julius Caesar’s invasion of Britain, including an ancient fort scattered with human skulls and weapons.
But the most interesting find was the remains of an elephant near the village of Branham in East Anglia. In Britain’s cold temperate climate today, elephants would not be able to survive. So, how did they survive so far north in the past? The answer blows climate alarmists’ narrative out of the water.
Prof. Roberts introduced the section about a prehistoric dig site: “400,000 years ago, Britain was a very different place indeed. There was savanna here, where elephants, rhinos and lions roamed alongside some of our early ancestors.”
Archaeologist Nick Ashton from the British Museum then explained that the bones of animals found on the site provide information about the climate of those times. The first remains he found were those of a pond terrapin. “Today, these animals are living in more continental Europe, in parts of France where the summers are much warmer. So, this provides a really good indication of what the climate was like,” he said.
Prof. Roberts said, “400,000 years ago, Britain was a very different place. Much warmer than today, with animals that seem exotic to us now.” Ashton then showed a piece of bone that had been buried in the soil they were excavating. It was part of a rib from an elephant.
Elephants inhabit a wide range of environments across Africa and Asia, in tropical climates. Tropical climates maintain consistent temperatures between 20°C and 35°C year-round, characterised by warm weather and minimal temperature variation. African elephants live in tropical forests, savannas, grasslands and woodlands, where temperatures typically range around 23°C. Asian elephants primarily inhabit tropical forest habitats.
In the summer, temperatures in the UK are in the region of 15 to 25°C. During winter, temperatures in the UK typically range between 0 to 7°C. Generally, the south and southeast of England experience warmer temperatures, with averages ranging from 18 to 25°C in the summer months.
Does that mean, when elephants, rhinos and lions roamed the savannas in Britain, temperatures were about 10°C warmer than they are today?
10oC warmer than it is today. Let that sink in. Britain’s climate isn’t isolated from the rest of the world. The average global temperature would have been warmer as well. Yet, climate alarmists want you to believe that an increase in global temperatures by 1.5oC compared to the years from 1850 to 1900 will be catastrophic.
Arch climate alarmist the United Nations says: “The science is clear: to avert the worst impacts of climate change and preserve a liveable planet, global warming needs to be limited as much as possible and as a matter of urgency … Limiting global warming to below 1.5°C will significantly reduce the risks, adverse impacts, and related losses and damages from climate change … Exceeding 1.5°C could [ ] trigger multiple climate tipping points – such as breakdowns of major ocean circulation systems, abrupt thawing of boreal permafrost, and collapse of tropical coral reef systems – with abrupt, irreversible, and dangerous impacts for humanity.”
It may not be classified as a science, but archaeological evidence shows the United Nations’ narrative about 1.5oC global warming is a lie.
And as for breakdowns in major ocean currents, it seems climate alarmists are now getting themselves into knots. In an article with a title that contradicts itself, ‘Could the UK actually get colder with global warming?’, the BBC said weakening or collapsing of ocean currents could mean that the United Kingdom and north-west Europe buck the trend of global warming and instead face plunging temperatures and freezing winters.
Yes, the UK is predicted to get colder, but it’s not because of global warming.
A study published in 2022 showed that Europe’s temperature will drop slightly for the next 15-20 years. This is due to a weakening of the North Atlantic Oscillation and a cooling of the North Atlantic. This is due to a natural cycle and has nothing to do with global warming or CO2.
Additionally, the Sun’s activity is weakening. According to Valentina Zharkova, Professor of Mathematics at Northumbria University, since 2020, the Sun has been going through a stage known as a grand solar minimum. It’s a normal cycle and one that has been linked to the mini ice age that lasted more than 50 years starting in the mid-1600s.
Although this grand solar minimum, the coldest 11-year period beginning in 2031, will not be as cold as the Maunder minimum in the mid-1600s when Europe’s major rivers froze, it will be cold enough to reduce plant growth and result in food shortages, Zharkova warned.
Related:
- Europe’s Cooling: Over the next 15 to 20 years Europe will get colder
- The waning Sun instantly flushes climate alarmists’ claims of never-ending rising temperatures down the pan
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Elephants were taken over in the 2nd Roman invasion by Claudius, to frighten ‘the be-Jesus’ Out of the Native population. Which they certainly did, maybe they discovered the remains of some of those ?
Hi Noj, the article below has some information regarding Roman war elephants possibly being brought to Britain. In brief: According to Cassius Dio, the Romans brought elephants to Britain during the invasion in 43 AD, led by Emperor Claudius. However, most historians are sceptical of this claim due to lack of corroborating evidence from other sources and the logistical challenges involved in transporting such animals across the English Channel.
“It’s important to remember that ancient histories like Dio’s were not intended to be objective, factual records … In this case, the image of Romans bringing elephants to the shores of Britain could have served to underscore the might and audacity of the Empire.” In other words, it could have been Roman propaganda.
https://www.historyskills.com/classroom/ancient-history/claudius-elephants/
To the transportation problems that raise scepticism about Dio’s account, I would add: what did they feed the elephants? Elephants typically eat between 149kgs and 169kgs of vegetation per day. To do this they roam over large areas. And left having to find their own food, as they do in their natural settings, they eat 16-18 hours a day (which leaves them no time to play a role in an army, so the Romans would have had to have provided their food).
https://seaworld.org/animals/all-about/elephants/diet/
This isn’t a topic that I haven’t ever given any real thought, but I do know when unproven figures like 400,000 years are thrown in the mix-we have a BIG problem!
I did a quick search, and apparently the biggest Roman ships (Navis) could carry 600 tons, and with the rest of the fleet between 100-150 tons, and an adult elephant ‘only’ weighing 6 tons, where is the “logistical problem”? The Romans could easily have brought over many baby elephants? The English channel being only some 24 miles long-the elephants wouldn’t have been at sea for too long? Besides, elephants are currently kept in UK zoos and parks.
Knowing as I do the might of the first Roman Empire, and their organisational skills, discipline and endless resources to their hand, why doubt these things?
Yes you are correct, it would have been no problem transporting Elephants to Britain they had 2 huge transportation Ships built for the purpose of hauling the gigantic obelisks out Egypt to Rome, Robert Graves mentions this in the book ‘Claudius the God’
Hi Islander, when listening to any scientist or archaeologist about timelines its best to do the quick mental arithmetic to get something more realistic – they are, after all, pushing the faulty Theory of Evolution idea as if its fact. And as we know evolution is not possible to explain without a very long timeline (millions/billions of years) – so time is key to making their theory sound possible without sounding completely bonkers. Nearly all scientists and archaeologists that we’ll get to hear from will use these extraordinary timelines – we cannot avoid it.
In the case of BBC’s documentary above, divide their timeline by 100 and see where you end up – sometimes its interesting to do this mental arithmetic to adjust their timeline and then read in the Bible to see what was happening at around that time. The results can be interesting if not surprising. So in this case, what was happening, according to the Bible, 4,000 years ago. This is around the time Abraham was alive. Does it fit?
Nothing in any BBC documentary fits!
Hi Islander, we’re looking for things that describe the Middle East at that time that gives us an indication of what the climate was like. Below are two exmaples to show you what I mean.
Jacob lived about 4,000 years ago (between approximately 2000 and 1600 BC). He lived in Canaan (Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria region), Haran (Turkey) and Egypt. Jacob blesses his son Judah, comparing him to a lion:
“You are a lion’s cub, Judah; you return from the prey, my son. Like a lion he crouches and lies down, like a lioness—who dares to rouse him?” Genesis 49:9
https://biblehub.com/genesis/49-9.htm
If they weren’t familiar with lions at that time then Jacob wouldn’t have used that analogy. It could be they were familiar because lions roamed that area. If lions roamed the area, then their prey did as well. If lions’ prey roamed the area then there must have been sufficient plants/grasses etc for the prey to eat and so it goes on down the food chain. The presence of apex predators indicates a decent amount of flora, fauna and water. To support all that life, the climate would have been good and sounds similar to the climate according to what the Digging for Britain is saying. Today, there are no lions in that region due to habitat loss.
In Moses time (about 300-600 years later, 1391-1271 BC), the Bible describes Canaan as a land full of produce, a land flowing with milk and honey. The size of the cluster of grapes is the clue here, what kind of climate is required so that that sort of thing grows, presumably naturally not farmed?
“When they came to the valley of Eshcol, they cut down a branch with a single cluster of grapes so large that it took two of them to carry it on a pole between them! They also brought back samples of the pomegranates and figs.” Numbers 13:23
https://biblehub.com/numbers/13-23.htm
These are the type of clues we’re looking for. Like the archaeologists, we’re looking for clues that tell us something about the climate in that region, in those days. Was the Middle East as good as Britain might have been 4,000 years ago (according to Digging for Britain)? So far, it sounds like it to me …
Hi Islander, its not 5-6 tonnes of dead weight – like carrying cargo. Transporting an elephant is 5-6 tonnes of a live animal that has a mind of its own and also gets frightened and acts unpredictably in unfamiliar situations. When elephants get going, with the weapons and restraints the Romans had, they would have been unstoppable (in my non-expert opinion) – and on a ship there is nowhere to run for safety.
The Romans primarily used African elephants which are larger, and much harder to train and pacify (domesticate, if you will) than Asian elephants. African elephants are also a lot more aggressive if they find they’re in a bind. I once heard about the relocation of an African elephant bull. The elephant was drugged and then put into a 30 tonne truck for transporting (only certain trucks can be used for relocating elephants and specialist teams are needed because its a high risk operation for all concerned, including the elephants, elephants do not travel well and there is always the risk the elephant might die en route – and there is always an armed guard, just in case). Towards the end of the journey the drugs started to wear off – the elephant hadn’t fully woken up so wasn’t throwing its full weight around, so to speak, but it didn’t take long before, by shifting is weight from one side of the trailer to the other, that the elephant had overturned the trailer and the truck, and, still a little groggy from drugs, freed itself from the overturned trailer and escaped. We must remember that elephants are highly intelligent animals, they know how to solve their problems, this particular elephant I refer to was solving his problem of being trapped in a trailer.
My guess is if they tried to transport an elephant or elephants on a Roman ship across the Channel, it’s highly likely the elephant/s would have severely damaged or even overturned and sunk the ship. And the Romans would have known this. I don’t believe they would have risked their ship, their soldiers. their elephants or their war supplies on such a risky journey.
Rhoda,
According to your logic Noah could never have boarded all those animals onto his ark!
We can either believe the evolutionary lie, or it was the Romans who put those beasts here? I know what I believe!
We don’t know the exact means whereby the Romans accomplished this task, but I believe they did. Look at the infrastructure they erected up here? Roads, cities, coliseums etc.
It is said that lions can overcome African Elephants, and we know all too well how lions were putty in the hands of the Romans?
All we can do here is speculate, but I believe that the Romans had the means to suppress these beasts, and that they didn’t care how many died in the process-just so long as they got them here to do their allotted tasks.
And the LORD said, Behold the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now NOTHING will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Genesis 11:6.
NOTHING! True then-true today.
And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon EVERY beast of the earth…Genesis 9:2.
Hi Islander, you say, “It is said that lions can overcome African Elephants.” This is not true. Lions may be able to overcome a calf that is separated from the herd, but lions are no match against an adult elephant.
I’m 1.7m tall. I once stood next to an elephant that wasn’t yet fully grown, he was almost but not yet fully mature. So he still had a bit of growing to do. The top of his head was about three quarters of my height again, so that would make him just under 3m tall. A lion wouldn’t have too much difficulty walking under his stomach, as we would walk through a doorway.
The tip of his trunk, fully opened was about the size of my hand if I fully extend all my fingers and thumb. The base of his trunk was wider than my thigh.
African elephants are a lot bigger than their Asian counterparts (which is the one usually seen on TV with a person standing next to it which gives perspective) – and a lot bigger than most people realise. I think people don’t realise how big African elephants are because they are usually seen some distance away from anything we could get a perspective on. It s only on the very rare occasion we get up close and personal that we realise their size, I know I didn’t realise how enormous they are until I had the honour and pleasure of standing next to one while on holiday in Africa. (It was a once in a lifetime experience for me, I could only get that close because he had been hand reared and his handler, who stays with him for life, was standing next to me making comforting noises and talking to him, and I had to wear his handler’s hat so he was familiar with the smell and felt comforted by that as well, otherwise the concern was he have could been unpredictable and I may have been injured, or even not have lived to tell the tale.)
Hello Rhoda,
I have read accounts where lions (plural) have overcome adult elephants, I wouldn’t doubt this. Of course any single lion would have no difficulty overcoming a young elephant, or indeed an injured one.
The first Roman Empire encompassed Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, and Egypt, so I don’t consider it a stretch to say the Romans commandeered the most skilled elephant tamers to handle them when they were shipped across the English channel, do you? It is a fact that these magnificent creatures were shackled in irons for certain situations, maybe the short boat trip could have been one of them?
I read that Mr. Bailey of Barnum and Bailey circus fame bought a female elephant (smaller than a male) in 1805 to plough his fields like a horse-this she did, but he found it an uneconomical venture because of her voracious appetite! As a result of this he decided to take her on the road as a spectacle charging people to see her, and so began his circus.
I also don’t think it a stretch to say that the Roman Empire had a tad more resources behind them than Mr. Bailey!?
Is it not noteworthy that at about the very time Emperor Claudius came to these shores that James penned his epistle?
Behold also the ships, though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds… James 3:4.
When the Bible says something is “great” then we should take note! James also said every kind of beast…hath been tamed by mankind. James 3:7.
HI Islander, Was Mr. Bailey’s elephant and Asian elephant? Although I thoroughly disagree with using animals in circuses and I strongly disagree with animals in zoos as well (I wish all these operations were shut down and banned), all circuses I’ve been aware of (from pictures or TV) have Asian elephants, you can tell by the shape of the head and the size of the ears in proportion to their heads.
A quick search on the internet reveals: “Barnum and Bailey Circus was known for its association with elephants, particularly the Asian elephant species. Notable elephants included “Old Bet,” the first African elephant to be exhibited in America by Hachaliah Bailey, and “Jumbo,” the largest elephant at the time, which was acquired for the show in 1882. Additionally, the circus featured other elephants throughout its history, including the first baby elephant born in captivity, known as “Columbia”.” (AI summary)
Sources:
https://americacomesalive.com/how-jumbo-joined-the-circus/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumbo
https://graphicarts.princeton.edu/2017/04/14/a-letter-to-bailey-and-his-elephant/
H Islander, regarding Noah’s Ark. Did Noah have babies on board? I don’t know. But if it was baby animals on the Ark as opposed to adults, he wouldn’t have needed to find the variety or volume of food and water needed for all the animals to last 40 days, he could have just taken a enough goats, for example, to provide milk to feed the baby animals and then he would have only needed food and water for the goats.
Rhoda, take the supernatural out of the Bible and we don’t have a Bible!
An iron axe head can float, 2 Kings 6:6.
A big fish swallowed Jonah, Jonah 1:17.
I could go on…
Try and convince an atheist of these things!
And of course, the amazing J*w!!!
The virgin birth!
Thanks for the detailed reply, they used Elephants in the coliseum so their food and feeding habits were probably well know to them, Romans being Romans they must have taken this into account then shipping and locating them in Britain. Maybe.
Hi Noj, I think you may be misunderstanding me. I’m not sure what the Romans fed their elephants, but can you imagine what 150kgs of twigs and leaves look like? How much volume it takes up? Was elephant food available in Britain for them to collect and gather each day, or would the Romans have had to also bring with them enough food for the 20 odd days of their campaign (roughly 3 tonnes of food per elephant)?
A bit warmer is certainly better for Europe.
Anyone questioning that is stupid.
EV Eco Disaster Burning Out Of Control In The Pacific…
“All 22 crew members evacuated the ship”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/new-footage-shows-abandoned-cargo-ship-laden-chinese-cars-burning-pacific
They find the remains of a single elephant and assume elephants roamed England’s savannah? Seriously?
Hi MK Maynard, here’s some other interesting stories about elephants being where you wouldn’t expect to find them because, today, the climate is not suitable for them to survive.
“Dr Francis Wenban-Smith discovered a site containing remains of an extinct straight-tusked elephant (Palaeoloxodon antiquus) in 2003, in an area of land at Ebbsfleet in Kent, during the construction of the High Speed 1 rail link from the Channel Tunnel to London.”
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2013/09/20-prehistoric-elephant-slaughtered-by-early-humans.page
“In the last century, evidence of the mighty beasts being at home in the Garden of England was unearthed on several occasions.”
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/kents-amazing-elephant-bone-discoveries-249587/
The presence of elephants in Europe in historical times back to classical antiquity, but previously, during Pleistocene and before, relatives of elephants were spread across the globe, including Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_elephants_in_Europe
“”A study published in 2022 showed that Europe’s temperature will drop slightly for the next 15-20 years. This is due to a weakening of the North Atlantic Oscillation and a cooling of the North Atlantic.
This is due to a natural cycle and has nothing to do with global warming or CO2.””
This global warming scam begin when all 3 huge atlantic oscillations, North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), Arctic Oscillation (AO) and Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) turned to warm phase.
These cyckles are 60 – 68 years (from warm to warm, or cold to cold).
These very well known oscillations are reason why we were going to imminent ice age and when they switched to warm phase, “man made” global warming scam started.
Now they are switching to cold phase again and imminent ice age fear
comes back, and CO2 goes down.
Here is real science behind this natural phenomenon:
https://nuclear-energy.net/physics/gas-laws/henry-s-law
Henry’s law is a fundamental principle in chemistry and physics that establishes an important relationship between the concentration of a gas in a solution and its partial pressure in space above the solution.
Geo-Magnetic Excursions might be another explanation. Every 12,000 to 24,000 years the planet tilts 90 degrees to the left as you look down the GMT longitude. This process is driven by a combination of the weight of Ice at both Poles as well as the uneven nature of Earth’s interior. The Dzanibekov effect comes into play.
The North Pole sits close to India, the South Pole is just off the coast of the appropriately named Chile and the UK is close to the Equator. Plenty of heat there for Elephants!
Geo-Magnetic excursions also explain why Antarctica is regularly ice free and would certainly have been well populated in the past.
Please research the Phoenix, it returns on a 138 year cycle, in May 2040. This is what the so called elites know, hence the crazy times.
Watch this and investigate all the other information.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5AjWdLGJ2w
So, did they carbon-date (or use a more modern method) that fragment. If it’s 2000 years old, most likely a Roman Pet. If they were indigenous, remains would be turning up all over the place, so (clumsily) invoking Occam’s Razor, it was Roman.
H Chris, you’re assuming carbon-14 dating is accurate But that’s not the case.
Freshly killed samples are dated at thousands of years old, e.g.:
1. “Seals that were freshly killed have been dated at 1,300 years old”:
https://apologeticspress.org/limitations-of-carbon-dating-5626/
2. Kieth and Anderson radiocarbon-dated the shell of a living freshwater mussel and obtained an age of over two thousand years. “Consequent errors of shell radiocarbon dates may be as large as several thousand years for river shells.”
https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.141.3581.634
One of the reasons it’s inaccurate is because it relies on a calculation which is underpinned by assumptions and estimates. One of the assumptions is that Carbon-14 remains constant in the environment.
https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/mathematics/mathematics-carbon-dating
https://josephsmithfoundation.org/carbon-dating-how-old-is-it-really/
However, the level of carbon-14 (C-14) in the atmosphere does not remain constant.
https://www.chem.uwec.edu/chem115_f00/nelsolar/chem.htm
Also remember that even by the calculations, estimates, assumptions and timelines they use, Carbon-14 dating cannot go beyond 50,000-60,000 years because of the half life of C-14. And the further back in time they go, the less accurate/reliable Carbon-14 dating is.
As always, certain scientists ignore unknowns and uncertainties when they push an idea as if it were a fact. The fact is, Carbon-14 dating is not reliable and so cannot be used in isolation to date anything. “Like any scientific method, it’s got its quirks and limitations, so always take the results with a healthy grain of salt and consider the bigger picture”:
https://scienceinsider.blog/carbon-dating-accuracy/
Despite what the technocrats want you to believe, science very rarely discovers facts. True science develops hypotheses, possible explanations/opinions and theories that are subject to change when they are challenged. Where science has gone wrong is that the Globalists are controlling science (largely through funding) and do not want anyone to challenge or question “the science.” This is how science is being used as a tool for behavioural change, thought control etc. And as the agenda progresses, it will get worse because technocrats are conditioning the world to blindly follow the Globalists’ chosen “experts.” Blind faith in their so-called “experts” is key to the implementing and running of a technate.
Or to put it as God in Christ would have us know:
Science falsely so called. 1 Timothy 6:20.
A theory that the earth’s crust slipped and moved north.
See Chat GPT
“Is there evidence of the earth’s crust slipping to the north in the past”
I saw petrified wood, corals and ammonites in northern Québec (Canada). There are recently submerged forests and caves containing intermingled fresh bones from both northern and southern species in England. To me, Dr. immanuel Velikovski’s book “Earth In Upheaval” took all its meaning.
A George Soros sponsored archeological site, Göbekli Tepe (Turkey), has recently almost entirely been buried again under concrete “for the next generations to re-discover”. From what is known so far, the constructors had carved on stones pillars the oral traditions and folklore narrated in “Worlds In Collision”; the three weeks lapse approach of a very bright and huge celestial object rushing towards the Earth, and the near destruction of all its civilizations.
I wonder how many other key parts of human history have been hidden from us because they did not fit with the scientific currents “à la mode du jour”.