Allah means “the god.” No one disputes this. But what is less clear is whether Allah is the God whom Christians worship?
In the following, we delve into the origins of Allah, before Muhammad changed the polytheistic idol worship practised by Arabs into the monotheistic religion of Islam.
God, YHWH, never changes. As He was in the beginning, so He is now and will be at the end. He remains the same yesterday, today and forever. Allah, on the other hand, has not remained the same.
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Abrahamic Religions
Out of the thousands of religions worldwide, a mere handful are monotheistic. The three main monotheistic faiths/religions are Christianity, Judaism and Islam, commonly referred to as the Abrahamic religions as they share a common patriarch.
Abraham – a central patriarch in Judaism, Christianity and Islam – was the father of Isaac, born miraculously to Sarah in her old age, and Ishmael, born to Hagar (Sarah’s Egyptian maidservant).
Isaac was chosen to carry forward the Abrahamic covenant. Isaac’s son Jacob, later renamed Israel, was the father of twelve sons who became the patriarchs of the twelve tribes of Israel.
To protect Isaac’s inheritance, Ishmael, along with his mother Hagar, was exiled from Abraham’s household. The Bible tells us that Ishmael “dwelt in the wilderness of Paran” and married an Egyptian. It is a widely held belief in Islamic tradition that Ishmael was the patriarch of the Arabs, although this is not a belief shared by all.
Related: Unravelling the Myth: Is Ishmael Truly the Father of Arab? Cautivo Estrella
A comment left under the article ‘Dr. Bill Schneobelen: Freemasonry and Islam’, which stated that Islam denies the deity of Jesus, said that Jews deny the deity of Jesus as well. This is true. But we need to bear in mind that there is only one God and he is three Persons: God the Father (Yahweh), God the Son (Jesus) and God the Holy Spirit. God’s three Persons are distinct but not separate; they are one.
It can be difficult for our minds to understand how God can be three distinct but inseparable Persons, but, fortunately for us, God always gives us something, a likeness, for comparison to help with understanding – in this case, it is ourselves. We, too, are three distinct persons which make up the one. We have a physical body, a soul (our “hearts and minds,” our feelings and conscience, an awareness of what is right and wrong) and a spirit. Our three persons make up the one, the whole person that we are. While we are alive on Earth, our three distinct persons cannot be separated.
Why does God have three Persons? To fulfil His will and His promises to us. “Us” being every human being that has ever lived, from Adam to the present day. First, it was God the Father with whom people interacted. Jesus and the Holy Spirit existed, but the world did not yet know them.
“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.”—Genesis 1:1-2 (NKJ)
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.”—John 1:5 (NKJ)
Jesus is “the Word” being described by John in the passage above. It is through Jesus that all things were created. In roughly 0 AD, at the time appointed by God, God the Son was revealed to the world when He came to Earth as a man named Jesus. When Jesus left the Earth, He sent us, and so revealed, His Holy Spirit.
God’s plan is not yet complete; it is still unfolding. At the end, Jesus will return to the Earth at the time appointed by God. His second coming will not be the same as the first. Jesus will reveal Himself simultaneously to the entire world. We will not have to rely on rumours or second-hand accounts; regardless of what we believe, we will all see Him with our own eyes at the same time.
“Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.” Revelation 1:7
Who is God?
Moses asked God his name. And God answered YHWH (“I AM WHO I AM”).
Then Moses said to God, “Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?”
And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’ ”
Exodus 3:13-14 (NKJ)
The first five books of the Christian Bible are the Torah, the Hebrew Bible. “I AM WHO I AM” is translated from Hebrew to English as: אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה (Ehyeh) “I AM”, אֲשֶׁ֣ר (Asher) “WHO”, אֶֽהְיֶ֑ה (Ehyeh) “I AM.” The Torah states:
Moses said to God, “When I come to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers’ [house] has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is [God’s] name?’ what shall I say to them?”
And God said to Moses, “Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh,” continuing, “Thus shall you say to the Israelites, ‘Ehyeh sent me to you.’”
“I AM WHO I AM” is the translation of the Hebrew Tetragrammaton “YHWH.” The original pronunciation of YHWH was lost over time, particularly during the Second Temple period (3rd to 2nd centuries BC) when the practice of avoiding the vocalisation of the divine name became widespread in Judaism. As a result, the name was read aloud as Adonai or Elohim.
Yahweh is widely regarded as the most accurate reconstruction of the original pronunciation of YHWH. The form Jehovah emerged later, where Christian scholars combined the consonants of YHWH with the vowels from Adonai.
Related: What is the meaning of Yahweh? What is the meaning of Jehovah? Got Questions and Why Is God Called Yahweh? (Jehovah), Blue Letter Bible
What can we conclude from all of this? The God of the Jews is YHWH, and because God is three Persons, YHWH is also Jesus (Yeshua) and the Holy Spirit.
Is it the same for Muslims? The Quran (Koran) does not explicitly mention the name YHWH (Yahweh). Scholarly analysis suggests that the Quran is cognisant of the divine name and engages with its meaning through reinterpretation rather than direct reference. So, it comes down to the question: Who is Allah? Is Allah another name for YHWH?
Who is Allah?
The answer to the question “Who is Allah?” depends on who you ask.
Islam Online uses Jesus’ words as written in the Bible to identify Allah:
Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment.
Mark 12:29-30
“In Islamic parlance this means: Submit to the One God Allah most sincerely,” Islam Online writes. In other words, Islam Online is claiming that Allah is the God of Israel, YHWH.
Islam Online then denies that Jesus is God, denies God’s Holy Spirit, and ignorantly and falsely accuses Christians of being polytheistic. “For some Christians, Islam’s uncompromising stance against the polytheistic Trinitarian concept of God in Christianity is a reason to fight Islam,” Islam Online said.
The author goes on to explain that before Islam, Arabs were pagans. While pagan Arabs worshipped lesser gods that were represented by idols, they “worshipped [Allah] as the Supreme Ruler of the universe, and there was no idol of Allah.” Although the pre-Islamic Arabs believed in Allah as the ultimate god, they often used idol intermediaries to approach him, believing these idols could bring them closer to Allah, Islam Online said.
In a 2007 article titled ‘Origins of Islam’, Muslim Hope provided some history of the name “Allah.” “Allah,” the article said, was a generic word for “god.” A 2020 article published by Biblical Missiology concurred:
The word “Allah” predates Islam. Each Arab tribe had its own idol gods and goddesses, but a number of tribes also acknowledged the existence of an “unknown god” they called al-ilah, which literally means “the god.” He was considered to be the invisible, supreme deity; however, they did not have a unified concept of who he was. In due time, Allah became “… a universalisation of the tribal god who was often referred to as al-ilah (the god). When the tribe encountered another tribe that had a god whom they also referred to as al-ilah, they both thought that they were referring to the same being, and so a universal idea of Allah grew among the Arabs.” (Nazir Ali, p. 26)
Allah: The god of Islam, Biblical Missiology, 16 September 2020
Before Muhammad demolished the shrine, the Kaaba in Mecca housed 360 idols and was called Beit-Allah, or “House of Allah”:
The Kaaba was known as beit-Allah or “the house of Allah.” Even though it housed 360 idol gods, the Kaaba was ultimately the house of Allah, the supreme pagan god. As lord of the Kaaba, he was not represented by a tangible statue like the 360 idols inside the Kaaba were.
Allah: The god of Islam, Biblical Missiology, 16 September 2020
However, according to Muslim Hope, there was an idol for Allah: “Among the idols worshipped at Mecca, one was just called ‘Allah’. This particular idol was the tribal god of the Quraysh [the tribe Muhammad was from], and he had three specific daughters.” Muslim Hope proposes that the name of the specific idol “Allah” likely came from the generic use of “Allah” for “god.”
The idol Allah’s three daughters were named Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Manat. “At one time, the ‘prophet of Allah’ compromised and said in the Qur’an (Sura 53:19) that ‘their intercession was to be hoped for’. In other words, he said we should hope for the help of these three [daughter] idols. Muhammed’s followers must have been amazed that he said this. Later, Muhammad changed his mind and said satan deceived him,” Muslim Hope said.
We wonder if there is anything else satan might have deceived Muhammad about and, as Answering Islam argued, whether Muhammad was a prophet sent by God:
The question is not whether Muslims and Christians have the same God (there is only one Creator after all), the question is if their book is FROM this God which it claims to be from. Without question: The Qur’an speaks ABOUT God, but is it FROM God?
The prime question is: Is the Qur’an FROM God? Or equivalently: Is Muhammad a prophet sent by the one and only true God?”
Is Allah the God of the Bible? Answering Islam
Further resources:
- Dr. Bill Schneobelen: Freemasonry and Islam, The Exposé, 4 November 2025
- Muhammad and Idolatry, Answering Islam
- Allah – Stone Idol? Koran Contradiction
The Religion of Islam: The Reemergence of Baal Worship
“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
“You shall have no other gods before Me.
“You shall not make for yourself a carved image – any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.”
First two of the Ten Commandments, Exodus 20:2-5
On WordPress, there was a blog titled ‘Answering Islam Blog’. It is no longer available as it has “been archived or suspended in accordance with [WordPress’] Terms of Service.” The author of the blog, Sam Shamoun, is also the author of the website ‘Answering Islam’ quoted in the section above.
The ‘Answering Islam Blog’ was last archived on the Wayback Machine on 28 October 2025. In 2020, Shamoun published the following article (archived HERE), which, through quotes from other sources, describes the origins of Allah. As well as the article below, you may be interested in reading Shamoun’s overview titled ‘Allah’, which can be found on Answering Islam’s Index page.
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- Hubal: Mecca’s Chief Deity
- Hubal: The Arabic Name For Baal
- Allah: The Name of the Idol Hubal
- Further Reading
By Sam Shamoun, 20 March 2020
In this post, I am going to provide the evidence that Islam is nothing more than the religion of Baal under the guise of Abrahamic ethical monotheism.
Hubal: Mecca’s Chief Deity
There is solid evidence connecting the pre-Islamic Allah with the moon. According to the scholarly sources, the chief god worshipped at Mecca was Hubal, whom many authorities claim was the moon god.
Hubal: Chief god of the Ka ‘ba; a martial and oracular deity; a moon god. (Gods, Goddesses and Mythology, ed. C. Scott Littleton [Marshal Cavendish Corporation 2005], Volume 11, p. 137)
Hubal: An idol, the God of the Moon. Centuries before Islam, ‘Amr ibn Luhayy, a chief of the tribe of Jurhum who dwelt in Mecca before the coming of the Quraysh tribe, brought the idol to the city from Syria. It was set up in the Ka‘bah and became the principal idol of the pagan Meccans. The ritual casting of lots and divining arrows was performed in front of it.
Hubal was pulled down and used as a doorstep when the Prophet conquered Mecca and purified the Ka‘bah. See IDOLS: JAHILIYYAH (Cyril Glasse, The New Encyclopedia of Islam, Third Edition [Stacey International, 2008], p. 209; underline emphasis mine)
Of the 360 idols set up in the Ka‘bah, the most important was Hubal, the god of the moon. Upon the conquest of Mecca the Prophet cut open some of these idols with a sword and black smoke is said to have issued forth from them, a sign of the psychic influences which had made these idols their dwelling place. The Prophet turned the idol of Hubal into a doorstep. (Ibid., p. 235; underline emphasis mine)
al-‘Uzza: One of the more important idols of the pagan Arabs, closely associated with al-Lat and al-Manat. All three were considered to be females. It is known that human sacrifice had been made to them on occasion. The other principal idol of the Meccans was Hubal, god of the Moon. See IDOLS (Ibid., p. 543; underline emphasis mine)
Hubal: A pre-Islamic deity represented by an idol in Kaaba that was destroyed by Muhammad when he conquered Mecca in 630. Patron of the Quraysh, leading tribe of Mecca. (The Oxford Dictionary of Islam [Oxford University Press, 2003], p. 117; underlined emphasis mine)
“The sira literature presents Mecca’s cult as a pagan one to the god Hubal, and depicts the Arabian religious environment in which Muhammad grew up as overwhelmingly pagan – the final vestiges of the ancient near eastern religious tradition…” (The Cambridge Companion to the Qur’an, ed. Jane Dammen McAuliffe [Cambridge University Press, 2006], p. 24; bold emphasis mine)
“Among the many deities that the Arabs worshiped in and around the Ka‘bah were the god Hubal and the three goddesses Al-Lat, al- ‘Uzza, and Manat. Hubal was originally a moon god, and perhaps also a rain god, as hubal means ‘vapor.’ …” (Mahmoud M. Ayoub, Islam: Faith and History [Oneworld Publications Ltd., 2005)], p. 15; bold emphasis mine)
“Khuza ‘ah thus shared the guilt of Jurhum. They were also to blame in other respects: a chieftain of theirs, on his way back from a journey to Syria, had asked the Moabites to give him one of their idols. They gave him Hubal, which he brought back to the Sanctuary, setting it up within the Ka’bah itself; and it became THE CHIEF IDOL OF MECCA.” (Martin Lings, Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources [Inner Traditions International, LTD. One Park Street, Rochestor Vermont 05767, 1983], p. 5; bold and capital emphasis mine)
“The Quraysh were wont to venerate her above all other idols. For this reason Zayd ibn-‘Amr ibn-Nufayl, who, during the Jahilyah days, had turned to the worship of God and renounced that of al-‘Uzza and of the other idols, said:
‘I have renounced both Allat and al-‘Uzza,
For thus would the brave and the robust do.
No more do I worship al-‘Uzza and her two daughters,
Or visit the two idols of the banu-Ghanm;
Nor do I journey to Hubal and adore it,
ALTHOUGH IT WAS OUR LORD WHEN I WAS YOUNG.’…“The Quraysh had also several idols in and around the Ka’bah. The greatest of these was Hubal. It was, as I was told, of red agate, in the form of a man with the right hand broken off. It came into the possession of the Quraysh in this condition, and they, therefore, made for it a hand of gold. The first to set it up [for worship] was Khuzaymah ibn-Mudrikah ibn-al-Ya’s’ ibn-Mudar. Consequently it used to be called Khuzaymah’s Hubal.
“It stood inside the Ka’bah. In front of it were seven divination arrows (sing. qidh, pl. qidah or aqduh). On one of these arrows was written ‘pure’ (sarih), and on another ‘consociated alien’ (mulsag). Whenever the lineage of a new-born was doubted, they would offer a sacrifice to it [Hubal] and then shuffle the arrows and throw them. If the arrows showed the word ‘pure,’ the child would be declared legitimate and the tribe would accept him. If, however, the arrows showed the words ‘consociated alien,’ the child would be declared illegitimate and the tribe would reject him. The third arrow was for divination concerning the dead, while the fourth was for divination concerning marriage. The purpose of the three remaining arrows has not been explained. Whenever they disagreed concerning something, or purposed to embark upon a journey, or undertake some project, they would proceed to it [Hubal] and shuffle the divination arrows before it. Whatever result they obtained they would follow and do accordingly.
“It was before [Hubal] that ‘Abd-al-Muttalib shuffled the divination arrows [in order to find out which of his ten children he should sacrifice in fulfilment of a vow he had sworn], and the arrows pointed to his son ‘Abdullah, the father of the Prophet. Hubal was also the same idol which abu-Sufyan ibn-Harb addressed when he emerged victorious after the battle of Uhud, saying:
‘Hubal, be thou exalted’ (i.e. may thy religion triumph);
“To which the Prophet replied:
‘Allah is more exalted and more majestic.’”
(Hisham Ibn al-Kalbi, The Book of Idols (Kitab Al-Asnam), Translated with Introduction and Notes by Nabih Amin Faris, pp. 19, 23-24)
Not only was Hubal considered the chief Meccan deity he was also identified as the lord and god of the kabah. Even the black stone of the kabah, which Muslims venerate till this day, was associated with Hubal:
“… The great god of Mecca was Hubal, an idol of carnelian.” (Maxime Rodinson, Muhammad [New Press, NY, May 2000 ISBN: 1565847520], p. 16; bold emphasis mine)
“… The Ka’ba which may have initially been a shrine of Hubal alone, housed several idols…” (Ibid., p. 40; bold emphasis mine)
“… The presiding deity was Hubal, a large carnelian kept inside the temple; 360 other idols were arranged outside…” (Malise Ruthven, Islam in the World [Oxford University Press, Second edition 2000], p. 15; bold emphasis mine)
“… Although originally under the aegis of the pagan god Hubal, the Makkan haram which centered around the well of Zamzam, may have become associated with the ancestral figures of Ibrahim and Isma’il as the Arab traders, shedding their parochial backgrounds sought to locate themselves within the broader reference-frame of Judeo-Christianity.” (Ibid., p. 17; bold emphasis mine)
“… the god of Makka, Hubal, represented by a statue of red carnelian, is thought to have been originally a totem of the Khuza’a, rulers of Makka before their displacement by the Quraysh…” (Ibid. p. 28; bold emphasis mine)
“… At the center of the town was the shrine called the Ka‘ba – a large, cubical building with a sacred black stone affixed in one corner – that was the sanctuary to the pagan god Hubal…” (Fred McGraw Donner, Muhammad And The Believers: At The Origins Of Islam [Belknap Press of Harvard University Press, 2010], 1. The Near East on the Eve of Islam, p. 35; bold emphasis mine)
“… In the Ka‘ba was the statue of the god Hubal who might be called the god of Mecca and of the Ka ‘ba. Caetani gives great prominence to the connection between the Ka‘ba and Hubal. Besides him, however, al-Lat, al-‘Uzza, and al-Manat were worshipped and are mentioned in the Kur’an; Hubal is never mentioned there. What position Allah held beside these is not exactly known.The Islamic tradition has certainly elevated him at the expense of other deities.” (M. Th. Houtsma, E. J. Brill’s First Encyclopedia of Islam 1913-1936, Volume IV, p. 591; bold emphasis mine)
“… The question might even be asked whether and how far the Ka‘ba was regarded as an astral symbol. For the affirmative there is the fact that the Ka‘ba is the object of the tawaf and that tawaf and Kab‘a are represented by Muslim tradition itself as connected with the host of spirits round the throne of God. The throne of God is, as is well known, a cosmic magnitude, and the Ka‘ba and the Black Stone are described as the throne of God’s khalifa on earth, Adam. The dance of the heavenly spirits can easily be interpreted as a dance of the planets. Moreover, golden suns and moons are repeatedly mentioned among the votive gifts (al-Azraki, p. 155 sqq.). According to al-Mas ‘udi (Murudj, iv. 47), certain people regarded the Ka‘ba as a temple devoted to the sun, the moon and the five planets. The 360 idols placed round the Ka‘ba also point in this direction. It can therefore hardly be denied that traces exist of astral symbolism. At the same time one can safely say that there can be no question of any general conception on these lines. The cult at the Ka‘ba was in the heathen period syncretic as is usual in heathenism. How far also North Semitic cults were represented in Mecca cannot be exactly ascertained. It is not excluded that Allah was of Aramaic origin. The dove of aloe wood which Muhammad found existing in the Ka‘ba may have been devoted to the Semitic Venus.” (Ibid.; bold emphasis mine)
“… Before Muhammad appeared, the Kaaba was surrounded by 360 idols, and every Arab house had its god. Arabs also believed in jinn (subtle beings), and some vague divinity with many offspring. Among the major deities of the pre-Islamic era were al-Lat (‘the Goddess’), worshiped in the shape of a square stone; al-Uzza (‘the Mighty’), a goddess identified with the morning star and worshiped as a thigh-bone shaped slab of granite between al-Taif and Mecca; Manat, the goddess of destiny, worshiped as a black stone on the road between Mecca and Medina; and the moon god, Hubal, whose worship was connected with the Black Stone of the Kaaba.” (Peter Occhiogrosso, The Joy Of Sects: A Spirited Guide To The World’s Religious Traditions [An Image Book published by DoubleDay, 1996], p. 399; underline emphasis mine)
“… At the time of Muhammad, the Ka’abah was OFFICIALLY DEDICATED to the god Hubal, a deity who had been imported into Arabia from the Nabateans in what is now Jordan. But the pre-eminence of the shrine as well as the common belief in Mecca seems to suggest that it may have been dedicated originally to al-Llah, the High God of the Arabs…” (Karen Armstrong, Muhammad: A Biography of the Prophet [Harper San Francisco; ISBN: 0062508865; Reprint edition, October 1993], pp. 61-62; bold and capital emphasis mine)
“… Legend had it that Qusayy had travelled in Syria and brought the three goddesses al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat to the Hijaz and enthroned the Nabatean god Hubal in the Ka’abah…” (Ibid., p. 66; bold emphasis mine)
Even though Armstrong disassociates Allah from Hubal she, nonetheless, acknowledges that the latter was the chief god of the kaabah. Elsewhere she admits that the Islamic veneration of the black stone was initially a pagan practice which Muhammad adopted into his religion:
It is only our more modern culture that can afford to prize originality and jettison tradition wholesale. In pre-modern society, continuity was crucial. Muhammad did not envisage a violent rupture with the past or with other faith communities. He wanted to root the new scripture in the spiritual landscape of Arabia.
Hence Muslims continue to perform the customary rituals at the Kabah, the cube-shaped shrine in the heart of Mecca, the most important centre of worship in Arabia. It was extremely ancient even in Muhammad’s time, and the original meaning of the cult associated with it had been forgotten, but it was still loved by the Arabs, who assembled each year for the hajj pilgrimage from all over the peninsula. They would circle the shrine seven times, following the direction of the sun around the earth; KISS THE BLACK STONE embedded in the wall of the Kabah, which was probably a meteorite that had once hurled to the ground, linking the site to heavenly world. These rites (known as the umrah) could be performed at any time, but during the hajj pilgrims would also run from the steps of al-Safa beside the Kabah across the valley to al-Marwah, where they prayed. They then moved to the environs of Mecca: on the plain of Arafat, they stood all night in vigil; they rushed in a body to the hollow of Muzdalifah; hurled pebbles at a rock in Mina, shaved their heads, and on the Id al-Adha, the final day of the pilgrimage, they performed an animal sacrifice … Officially, the shrine was dedicated to Hubal, a Nabatean deity, and there was 360 idols arranged around the Kabah, probably representing the days of the year. But by Muhammad’s day, it seems that the Kabah was venerated as the shrine of Allah, the High God, and it is a mark of widespread conviction that Allah was the same as the deity worshipped by the monotheists that those Arabs in the northern tribes on the borders of the Byzantine Empire who had converted to Christianity used to make the hajj alongside the pagans. Yet for all this, in the early days of his mission, Muhammad still made the Muslim perform the salat prayer facing Jerusalem, the holy city of the ahl al-kitab, turning their backs on the pagan associations of the Kabah. This expressed his longing to bring the Arabs into the monotheistic family. (Karen Armstrong, Islam: A Short History [Random House, Inc. 2002], pp. 10-12; bold and capital emphasis mine)
Hubal: The Arabic Name For Baal
Many scholars, both ancient and modern, were/are of the opinion that Hubal was simply the Arabic equivalent of the false god Baal.
For instance, F.E. Peters, though shares Karen Armstrong’s view that Hubal wasn’t Allah, nonetheless writes:
“Among the gods worshiped by the Quraysh, the greatest was Hubal …
Some additional details on this cleromantic deity, the most powerful of the pagan idols of Mecca, is supplied by the Meccan historian Azraqi …
Amr ibn Luhayy brought with him (to Mecca) an idol called Hubal from the land of Hit in Mesopotamia. Hubal was one of the Quraysh’s greatest idols so he set it up at the well inside the Kab’a and ordered the people to worship it. Thus a man coming back from a journey would visit it and circumambulate the House before going to his family, and would shave his hair before it … (Peters, Hajj: The Muslim Pilgrimage to Mecca and the Holy Places [Princeton University Press, NJ, 1994], pp. 24-25)
Peters’ footnote 59 states: “Other sources say that it came from northern Jordan.” (Ibid., p. 365)
The data points in the direction of Hubal being the Arabic for the Hebrew Ha Baal, “the Baal.” For instance, Peters’ statement above regarding Amr ibn Luhayy bringing Hubal from Mesopotamia provides evidence that the idol was a representation of Baal.
Late Muslim scholar Martin Lings, while commenting on the origin of paganism in Mecca, further supports this when he writes:
“Khuza ‘ah thus shared the guilt of Jurhum. They were also to blame in other respects: a chieftain of theirs, on his way back from a journey to SYRIA, had asked the MOABITES to give him ONE OF THEIR IDOLS. They gave him HUBAL, which he brought back to the Sanctuary, setting it up within the Ka’bah itself; and it became THE CHIEF IDOL OF MECCA.” (Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources [Inner Traditions International, LTD. One Park Street, Rochestor Vermont 05767, 1983], p. 5; bold and capital emphasis mine)
Commenting on ‘Abd al-Muttalib’s rediscovery of the well of Zamzam and its treasures, Lings writes:
“… So ‘Abd al-Muttalib continued to dig without any actual move being made to stop him; and some of the people were already leaving the sanctuary when suddenly he struck the well’s stone covering and uttered a cry of thanksgiving to God. The crowd reassembled and increased; and when he began to dig out the treasure which Jurhum had buried there, everyone claimed the right to share in it. ‘Abd al-Muttalib agreed that lots should be cast for each object, as to whether it should be kept in the sanctuary or go to him personally or be divided amongst the tribe. This had become the recognised way of deciding an issue of doubt, and it was done by means of divining arrows inside the Ka’bah, in front of THE MOABITE IDOL HUBAL …” (Lings, p. 11; bold and capital emphasis mine)
Renowned Muslim scholar Ibn Kathir noted:
Ibn Hisham states that a learned man told him that ‘Amr b. Luhayy once left Mecca for Syria on business and reached Ma’ab [the Moabites] in the Balqa‘ region. There at that time lived the ‘Amaliq [the Amalekites], the sons of ‘Imlaq or, as some say, ‘Imliq b. Lawadh b. Sam b. Nuh. ‘Amr witnessed them worshipping idols, so he asked them why. They replied that if they asked the idols for rain it came, or for victory they won it.
‘Amr then asked them to give him an idol he could take to Arab lands where it could be worshipped, and they gave him one named Hubal. This he brought to Mecca and set on a pedestal and ordered the people to worship and venerate it. (The Life of the Prophet Muhammad (Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya), Volume I, translated by professor Trevor Le Gassick, reviewed by Dr. Ahmed Fareed [Garnet Publishing Limited, 8 Southern Court, South Street Reading RG1 4QS, UK; The Center for Muslim Contribution to Civilization, 1998], p. 42; bold emphasis and comments in brackets mine)
Other sources include:
“The Kaaba itself, which was the sanctuary of the Pagan Arabs, and remained such after they had embraced Islam, is a building about thirty-four feet high and about twenty-seven broad, so called from being almost a perfect square, as the name implies. In this building we find no less than 360 idols; a chief of them, Hubal, was at once the presiding god in the temple and the principal deity of the Koreishites, who were its guardians. The pre-eminence of this idol was evinced by the fact, that before it, the casting of lots with arrows took place. Prior, however, to its obtaining this honour, it passed through a term of probation, for we learn upon good authority, that for a considerable period it stood outside the walls of the Kaaba, patiently waiting for its admission. It was probably introduced when the sanctuary of the Koreish tribe was converted into the Pantheon of the whole of Arabia. The name of Hubal remains a mystery. The opinion that it is synonymous with the Babylonian and Syrian Baal or Bel is supported by the testimony of Arab authorities, according to whom Hubal was originally imported from Syria. These writers do not indeed maintain that Hubal was identical with Baal, but they admit Hubal to be an astronomical deity.
“Again, when it is stated by Abulfeda that the image of Abraham occupied the chief in the Kaaba, and that he was represented by Hubal, we may take it for granted that Hubal had a double character, like Baal, who was both the founder of the Babylonian empire and the solar deity…” (John Muehleisen Arnold, Islam: Its History, Character, and Relation to Christianity, Chapter I. The Land Of Its Birth, The Pre-Islamite Kaaba, pp. 26-27; bold emphasis mine)
And:
“As well as worshipping idols and spirits, found in animals, plants, rocks and water, the ancient Arabs believed in several major gods and goddesses whom they considered to hold supreme power over all things. The most famous of these were Al-lat, Al-‘Uzza, Manat and Hubal. The first three were thought to be the daughters of Allah (God) and their intercessions on behalf of their worshippers were therefore of great significance…
“Al-lat, also known as Alilat, was worshiped in the shape of a square white stone. She was know to other Semitic people in Syria and Mesopotamia, and was the Mother Goddess of Palmyra (in northern Syria), whose symbol was the lion. The Nabataeans of south Jordan and south Palestine worshiped her as the sun goddess, the giver of life. In Mecca, Al-lat had a haram (sanctuary) and a hima where the Arabs flocked to perform the rites of worship and sacrifice which would bring her favour upon them.
“Al-‘Uzza was worshiped in the form of three palm trees, a stone and an idol. She was the supreme deity of the tribe of Quraysh, the rulers of Mecca immediately before Islam. She had a temple and a hima there and was offered gifts in gold and silver and adorned with jewellery. Her name means ‘the most cherished’ but she was a cruel goddess who could be appeased only by the shedding of blood, both human and animal. Like Al-lat, al-‘Uzza was associated with the goddess of love, al-Zuhara, but was more closely linked with Al-lat. The two were often worshipped together and sometimes formed a trinity with Manat or the god Hubal. Replicas of them were carried by the clans of Quraysh when they went to war to inspire the fighters with courage and devotion…
“Hubal was associated with the Semitic god Ba‘l and with Adonis or Tammuz, the gods of spring, fertility, agriculture and plenty… Hubal’s idol used to stand by the holy well inside the Sacred House…” (Fabled Cities, Princes & Jinn From Arab Myths and Legends, text by Khairet al-Saleh, illustrations by Rashad N. Salim [Schocken Books, New York 1985], p. 28; bold emphasis mine)
Finally:
“In addition to the sun, moon and the star Al-Zuhara, the Arabs worshipped the planets Saturn, Mercury, and Jupiter, the stars Sirius and Canopies and the constellations of Orion, Ursa Major and Minor, and the seven Pleiades.
“Some stars and planets were given human characters. According to legend, Al-Dabaran, one of the stars in the Hyades group, fell deeply in love with Al-Thurayya, the fairest of the Pleiades stars. With the approval of the Moon, he asked for her hand in marriage. Al-Thurayya objected, saying coquettishly, ‘What would I do with a fellow like that, with no money?’” (Ibid., pp. 29-30; bold emphasis ours)
There is another indirect piece of evidence which links Allah to Baal. Franz Rosenthal, while commenting on the mass confusion which surrounded the Muslims regarding the precise meaning of as-samad (Cf. 112:2), posits a possible origin for the word. He says:
… There is enough room for suspicion to permit us having a look at some outside evidence.
There, we encounter a noteworthy phenomenon: the not infrequent religious connotation of the root smd.
In Ugaritic, smd appears as a stick or club that is wielded by Ba’l. In the Kilammu inscription, line 15, we find b’l smd, apparently, b’l as the owner of his divine club. In the Bible, the adherence of the Israelites to Baal of Peor is expressed by the nip’al of the root smd. The verb is translated by the Septuagint heteleuse (Numeri 25:3, 5; Ps. 106:28). The use of the verb doubtlessly reflects North Canaanite religious terminology.
From Arabic sources, we learn that an idol of ‘Ad was allegedly called samud, which brings us rather close to the environment of Muhammad …
In view of this material, the suggestion may be made that as-samad in the Qur’an is a survival of an ancient Northwest Semitic religious term, which may no longer have been understood by Muhammad himself, nor by the old poets (if the sawahid should be genuine). This suggestion would well account for the presence of the article with the word in the Qur’an, and it would especially well account for the hesitation of the commentators vis-a-vis so prominent a passage. Such hesitation is what we would expect if we are dealing with a pagan survival from the early period of the revelation. (What the Koran Really Says: Language, Text, & Commentary, “Some Minor Problems in the Qur’an”, edited with translation by Ibn Warraq [Prometheus Books, October, 2002, Hardcover; ISBN: 157392945X], part 5.2, pp. 336-337; bold and underline emphasis mine)
If Rosenthal is correct, then this is just additional support that Allah was the name of Hubal, and that Hubal was Arabic for Baal.
In light of the foregoing, it should not come as a surprise that a modern biography on Muhammad’s life comes right out and identifies Hubal as Baal:
Inside this holy of holies are stored all manner of sacred objects and images. These are said to include an icon of the Virgin Mary with the Christ Child and a portrait of the Prophet Abraham. But the shrine is dominated by a representation of the war god Baal Hubal, who watches over the city’s political destiny. At times of trouble the city elders can seek his advice by casting a quiver of divinatory arrows before idols and reading the future from the answers they give. (Barnaby Rogerson, The Prophet Muhammad – A Biography [HiddenSpring, An Imprint of Pauline Press, Mahwah, NJ 2003], p. 15; bold and underline emphasis mine)
And:
The statue of the Syrian war god Hubal was hauled away, as were the divination arrows that the Quraysh had been wont to throw before the statue. (Ibid., p. 190; underline emphasis mine)
Allah: The Name of the Idol Hubal
There’s evidence suggesting that Allah was simply the name that the pagans gave to Hubal in recognition of the fact that he was the chief of all the gods. This means that the idol of Hubal was actually a statue of Allah, and therefore Allah was, in fact, one of the idols worshiped there!
In fact, the Islamic sources themselves provide indirect evidence which supports this view. For instance, Ibn Kathir shows that the god of Muhammad’s family was Hubal, and that his grandfather even prayed to Allah by facing Hubal’s idol!
“Ibn Ishaq stated, ‘It is claimed that when ‘Abd al-Muttalib received such opposition from Quraysh over the digging of zamzam, he vowed that if ten sons were born to him who grew up and protected him, he would sacrifice one of them for God at the ka‘ba.’
“Eventually he had ten sons grown up whom he knew would give him protection. Their names were al-Harith, al-Zubayr, Hajl, Dirar, al-Muqawwim, Abu Lahab, al-‘Abbas, Hamza, Abu Talib, and ‘Abd Allah. He assembled them and told them of his vow and asked them to honour his pledge to God, Almighty and All-glorious is He. They obeyed, and asked him what he wanted them to do. He asked each of them to take an arrow, write his name on it and return to him.
“They did so and went with them inside the ka‘ba to the site of their god Hubal, where there was the well in which offerings to the ka‘ba would be placed. There, near Hubal, were seven arrows which they would use for divining a judgement over some matter of consequence, a question of blood-money, kinship, or the like. They would come to Hubal to seek a resolution, accepting whatever they were ordered to do or to refrain from.” (The Life of the Prophet Muhammad (Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya), Volume I, translated by professor Trevor Le Gassick, reviewed by Dr. Ahmed Fareed [Garnet Publishing Limited, 8 Southern Court, south Street Reading RG1 4QS, UK; The Center for Muslim Contribution to Civilization, 1998], pp. 125-126; *; bold emphasis mine)
The tradition goes on to say that the lot fell on ‘Abd Allah, Muhammad’s future father, meaning that he would have to be sacrificed. The Quraish convinced ‘Abd al-Muttalib to find a way of sparing his son, and convinced him to consult a woman diviner. The text continues:
“So they left for Medina, where they found the diviner whose name was Sajah, as Yunus b. Bukayr reported from Ibn Ishaq, was at Khaybar. They rode off again and went to her and sought her advice, ‘Abd al-Muttalib telling her of the whole problem regarding him and his son. She told him: ‘Leave me today, until my attendant spirit comes and I can ask him.’”
“They left her and ‘Abd al-Muttalib prayed to God. Next day they went back to her and she informed them that she had had a message. ‘How much is the blood-money you prescribe?’ she asked. ‘Ten camels,’ they told her, that being then the case. ‘Then go back to your land and present your man as an offering and do the same with the ten camels. Then cast arrows to decide between him and them. If the divining arrow points to him then add to the number of camels until your god is satisfied; if it points to the camels, then sacrifice them in his place. That way you will please your god and save your man.’
“So they went back to Mecca and, when they had agreed to do as she had said, ‘Abd al-Muttalib said prayers to God. Then they offered up ‘Abd Allah and the ten camels as sacrifice and cast the arrow. At that point the men of Quraysh told ‘Abd al-Muttalib, who was standing near Hubal praying to God, “It’s all over! Your God is pleased, O ‘Abd al-Muttalib’…” (Ibid., p. 126-127; bold emphasis mine)
It makes absolutely no sense for Muhammad’s grandfather to stand before the statue of Hubal while praying to Allah if they were not one and the same. Nor does it make sense for the grandfather to make a vow to Allah and then go before the idol of Hubal in order to fulfill it!
This basically proves that the pre-Islamic pagans like Muhammad’s grandfather took Allah as the name of the god Hubal, which is why they would pray to Allah by going before the idol of Hubal. In their minds, the statue representing Hubal was none other than an idol depicting Allah.
Further Reading
- The Ishmaelites and the Worship of God
- Did the Meccans Believe in Allah as the Most High?
- Did the Meccans really believe that Allah was the Supreme God?
- Hubal and Allah Revisited
- Ba’al, Hubal, and Allah
Featured image: Relief of the Arabian goddesses Al-Lat, Manat and Al-Uzza, the pagan idols of the Quraysh tribe (left). Source: Wikipedia. The Kaaba in Mecca during the hajj (right). Source: Britannica
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W4dbNeJXSag The sheep are trying to figure out how to live in a society within a society , their living the proof but don’t know what questions to ask .
you can’t have a society in a society because the laws are different ( assimilation isn’t different laws ) yes assimilation they were defeated . this is how they built it to self destruct . could be we’re talking about the greatest story ever told .
It is simple to understand the difference between Allah and YHWH by looking at the history of the guardians appointed to the various nations.
Abraham prayed to God and God answered his prayer by establishing Ishmael as a nation. Ishmael, like Isaac, is the seed of Abraham and was named by YHWH. When Hagar at first tried to leave Abraham’s household the Angel of the YHWH told her to return. Finally, she is sent away by Abraham. Having been given leave by Abraham, Ishmael is now free to become an independent nation. Ishmael of course has a national guardian who appears for his help. Notice that Ishmael’s guardian is not the angel of the YHWH but the “angel of God”, and while YHWH was with Isaac, God was with Ishmael. Ishmaelites worship Allah, not YHWH. Ishmael’s guardian angel is superior to that of other nations just as the guardian of Israel is superior to that of the other nations. This is why Islam cannot be defeated by any nation. Only the seed of Abraham have the authority to stand against him. See Gen. 16:11, 17:20 and 21:13-19
Hi Plebney, There’s a few flaws in your theory. The most important misunderstanding you have is that you think Abraham sent Hagar and Ishmael away, when it was God.
God sent Hagar and Ishmael away because God’s covenant was with Isaac, not Ishmael. God made Ishmael “a nation” (i.e. many descendants) to honour His covenant with Abraham, a covenant that was passed down through Isaac. God frequently works through people and on this occasion He was working through Hagar and Sarah to ensure that His will was done.
If the Koran does not say the same, then Muslims need to follow the instructions in the Koran and read “the Scriptures.” As you are probably already aware, “the Scriptures” referred to in the Koran are the Torah and the Christian Bible (from which the quote above comes).
You say, “While YHWH was with Isaac, God was with Ishmael.” As the Bible clearly states, the one, true God is YHWH. There are many false gods, but only one, true God. If YHWH (God) was not with Ishmael then what is the name of the god that was “with” Ishmael and what is the name of Ishmael’s so called “guardian angel”?
The truth is: If YHWH is not with Islam, it will be defeated. What each of us need to do, is get ourselves right with God. The first step is to accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour.
Benedict was a theologian before he was the pseudo-vicar of Christ, and said there is nothing unique in Islam. For instance, Ishmael (he who hears God) had 12 sons, who are the patriarchs of the arabians.
Arabic is like Hebrew, as they are both Shem-itic languages, and suggest the vowels by curly cues and dots. Thus, MHMD can be Mohamed or Mahmoud, or Messiah. The Jewish scribes were fanatical in their work, and in Hebrew each letter is a number. Thus, when transcribing, they had to add up all the numbers to a proscribed total in order to vouchsafe their accuracy, resulting in two thousand year old manuscripts in the Dead Sea Scrolls being essentially exact copies. This can be manipulated though, such as Psalm 22:16 after the crucifixion.
There are 360 stones because there used to be 360 days a year in all calendars before 900 BC, when something happened to add 5.24 days. They were smarter then than we are, as the victims of Genetic Entropy.
God is Three-in-One since He IS love (1 Jn 4:8), and if He were singular then that love would be in theory not in practice. Jews and esp Arabs are offended by this supposed polytheism, but The Shema, the foundation of Judaism in Deut 6:4, states “.. (1)the Lord, (2)our God, (3)the Lord is one.” This suggests the Trinity, and “echad” is not the letter for number one, but may mean THE one. And verse 5 does not have “mind,” which is added in Mt 12:30, Luke 10:27 and Mk 12:30 because that is where the battle now rages (woke, etc).
When at the time of Constantine Christianity was combined with Paganism, this syncretion resulted in praying to the pseudo-saints and co-redemptrix, just as the heathen prayed to this or that false god.
Allah first appeared to Mo as an angel of light in a cave, much like 2 Cor 11:14. Islam thinks the Trinity is God the Father, Issa bin Miryam, and Miryam, which is risible. They say God (Jesus) is not begotten, Ishmael was at the Akedah, and that Issa was replaced on the cross by Judas or somethin. They claim the Bible has been corrupted, but it is obvious which holy book has been, and remember, there is no IX commandment in Islam.
There was no year AD 0, as the zero was not introduced until 1528 years later, so we went directly from 1 BC to AD 1, and the Little Dennis (Dionysius) miscalculated the birth of Yeshua by 2-6 years. Plus, there were no verses in the Bible until 1551.
It is odd that the human attempt to fulfill God’s promise (Ishmael), instead of letting Him do it (Isaac) in His perfect timing, is STILL the source of so much turmoil.
The archangel Michael is the prince over Israel, and in Dan 10 overcomes the prince of Persia, who has now re-emerged. According to Jonathan Cahn, when nations expel the true God, then the lesser gods may re-enter, which does not bode well for US. There is a war in the heavens which is now also being played out on earth, as the evil one has been kicked out (like lightning, Luke 10:18) from the holy mount and knows his time is short so is greatly wroth (Rev 12:7-9, 12). He is now waging war against believers (v.17), so buckle up buttercup the armor (Eph 6).
I will make several points. First, my commendations to Rhoda Wilson on her scholarly essay, and her brilliant writing in general. Second, the conclusion that the Baal of the Moabites, Hubal of the pre-Islamic Arabs, and the Allah of Islam, are one and the same, seems grounded in earth shattering historical fact, Third, Plebney’s scholarly observation of the absence of the Tetragrammaton in the case of Ishmael’s “angel of God” is correct, and noteworthy. The reason for this is certainly a valid subject for discussion. Last: Certainly there is nothing of more importance than discerning the correct identity of the true God.
Hi David Rinker, you say, “my commendations to Rhoda Wilson.” Thank you.
There are many rabbies who claim Yisrael and Islam worship the same God.
But there are very few who say that Yisrael and Christianity worship the same God.
Instead of looking at scripture we can look at what the different Gods bring into this world.
In case of Allah it’s especially death and destruction.
That should give us a fair idea about who we’re dealing with.
You’ll know them by thier fruits. Fruit of the spirit, love, joy, peace, self control….
like my friend said “ maybe they didn’t know any better “
Scholarly this work may be, but really I don’t think it matters that much and neither can it be proved one way or the other. In the end it is a matter of opinion, and so here is my opinion. What matters s not what nation is going to be defeated by who because they do not worship the one true God, what matters is that all human life is considered sacred and that no one attempts to justify war on religious grounds. It is possibly only the Eastern Orthodox who do not believe in holy war.
Whatever one means by a book being “FROM” God I have no idea because all so called sacred texts are written by humans, and humans have a bad habit of projecting their own traits onto God, thus all religions end up with a distorted view of God. I Am who I AM is the essence and this applies to humans as much as it applies to God. When we understand this we have no need to go on about the attributes of God apart from the fact that God is the source of all, and is not a he or she.
Islam says that “Jesus is the Son of Mary”, indicating that she is the main Deity. Her Son, Jesus had the mental capacity of an advanced adult at birth, so both are recognized in Islam.
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[…] Is Allah the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel? Allah means “the god.” No one disputes this. But what is less clear is whether Allah is the God whom Christians worship? In the following, we delve into the origins of Allah, before Muhammad changed the polytheistic idol worship practised by Arabs into the monotheistic religion of Islam. God, YHWH, never changes. As He was in the beginning, so He is now and will be at the end. He remains the same yesterday, today and forever. Allah, on the other hand, has not. […]
What if there is an ALTERNATIVE version of what we belief in faith, religions and so many different gods introduced to humanity.
Please take this alterntive version with lots of salt or perhaps also take with lots of vax and pain killers because the “The truth is stranger than fiction”.
First, how do we know all the scriptures, books( written documents), prophets, messengers, and compiled cherry pick verses in bible/quran/hadith are AUTHENTIC or GENUINE..? WE DON’T because we CAN’T verified it and solely depend on FAITH and then clinging to generations of indoctrination previous brainwash.
Everyone who had been introduced with faith of religion since young age will be TRIGGERED every time religion or faith/god are been questioned or challenged. Everybody must swallowed whole without question if related to faith/religions/gods. Any doubts or questioning the existing narratives will be considered a bigot/hypocrite. Why?
Alternatively, what IF generations of our ancestors are the civilization kick-start by the elites after every resets of 1200 years cycle..?
The elites restart the civilization each time global reset (biblical flood/mini ice age) with FALSE gods according to which place of BUNKER they emerged.
They smiled and laughing witnessing the religions thriving and make lots of money for them by pretending they are religious and pious. However, doing unspeakable evil practices behind the curtain.
Example: Freemason, Illuminati, Churches, Popes, Shrines and the Order of the Old (OWL).
The human who controlled the world such as CERTAIN world leaders, rocket scientist, engineers, and reknowned individuals (Einstein and many more) are Athies (Atheism is generally defined as the absence of belief in deities and is often considered a rejection of religious beliefs).
This is BECAUSE they created those religions and they know it’s fake and man-made.
I know Rhonda Wilson will presenting her verses of Bible and if Islamic version will be presented with verses of Quran/Hadith to back-up their narratives. But, please take this/think it over as consideration for altenative hidden version of how our world runs/operates with open mind without bias.
Thank you and good luck to all for upcoming reset.
Hi AkashiRecordLibrarian, the problem with your hypothesis (that all religions are man made) is, the “elite” who you say made up all religions – the “elite” being the Freemasons, Illuminati, Committee of 300 and Council of 33, all headed the 13 Rex Deus bloodline families – all follow a religion themselves. Do you know what religion that is? Do know which god is represented by the “all seeing eye” which the 13 families serve?
There are only two religions: Faith in the one and only true God (Yahweh), the true religion; and the false religion. All religions that do not worship Yahweh (Adonai, Jehovah) as the only true God, are false. The false religion is made up of a plethora (thousands) of seemingly separate religions, including the religion of the so-called “elite,” but they all lead to the same. All false religions are inspired by satan.
What each person has to do for themselves is choose whether they will worship God/Jesus/Holy Spirit or worship satan. For the time being, we are free to choose to avoid making an explicit choice between God or satan (although in reality by not making a choice, by default a choice has been made because Jesus says, whoever is not for Him is against Him). But there will come a day when people will not be able to avoid choosing between God and a false god. At the end of days the anti-Christ (satan’s representative on Earth) will use what ever means possible, including imprisonment and death, to force people to deny God and bow down to him. I think if you were to be alive in those days, you would not so easily brush off all religions as man-made, and you would have the proof you have been looking for that God exists.
Religions are man made for profit, for fear, for division and for war (It’s worked wonders). The bible was written 300 years after Jesus supposedly walked the Earth, even though there were at least 4 historians in the first century but none wrote about him. But 300 years later a book was written word for word of what God said!
I could say Harry Potter is the son of God, he has magical powers and came to destroy evil….But I’m told “Don’t be silly, it’s just a story in a book written by someone!”
Then we have the KJV edition, that’s supposedly the ‘best’ bible, the one true translation of the bible but authorised by one of the 13 elite bloodlines, please make it make sense!…
Islam came from Catholicism, where Jesus is not revered as he is in Christianity and along with Judaism they worship Saturn (Satan), where Christians worship Jesus (The Sun)
The Jewish sabbath day is Saturnday and they prey with the black cube of Saturn on their heads (Tefillin). In Islam they worship the Kaaba, another black cube! Christian’s sabbath day is Sunday and they prey to a cross, the Sun cross.
The story of Jesus has been told by many different religions, just with different characters. The mass of Christ is a Sun festival. The sun stops it’s journey for 3 days from midnight on the 21st to midnight on the 24th December, then moves 1 degree on the 25th December and it was said that the Sun dies and is reborn. Easter is another Sun festival. Light overcomes darkness, as the days become longer and new life is born. The ancients knew all this. They didn’t watch football or soap operas. They didn’t have the internet, they watched the skies and told stories of the stars, the moon, the sun and the planets. These myths were passed down and the characters created came to life in these books.
So please save yourselves because if you’re waiting for the return of ‘our saviour’, it’s going to be a long wait!…
“Peace and Love”
It’s extremely rare to meet woke people, congrats!
What I see coming in future…In 06/06/2031= 0+6/0+6/2+0+2+3+1 = 666
Note: intuitively feels this date because number 666 keeps flashes but cant’ be sure because the vision no time stamp.
The LOCAL SUN burst and shooting dragged fireballs in shape of human figure causing large place/area becomes lifeless barren land just like Sahara desert somewhere near sin city (Las Vegas?).
Then, the Sun stopped and earth (Pangea) enveloped in total darkness for 3 days. The sun later turn into charcoal-like with dim light but no heat or ray of lights. Then, the sun start moving again in opposite direction after motionless 3 days. Now, West to East.
Without sun heat, the ocean can’t produce heat or Oxygen. The atmosphere gradually getting colder and colder until reach freezing point. Colder air caused the ocean rises and will caused another biblical flood.
Example: Just like cupping therapy by insert fire to make hot air in cup and then cold air are sucking your blood out. Same principle happened with cold air with rises of ocean water.
19 years later in year 2050, mini ice age enveloped earth for 50 years.
In year 2100 (2050+50 years), the elites emerged from bunkers and restart the human civilisation for the 7th. time (we have another 5 more cycles every 1200 years from total of 12 cycles).
Disclaimer: Not to create panic or disconfort. But, my AkashicRecord vision need to be shared. Sorry for any incoveniences caused.
Woke? Definitely not…. Awake? Hopefully….
YHWH is not and never will be God. He is part of the Elohim who are also know as the Annunaki. He was part of what is named as the sky council in the Bible. Yeshuah (Jesus) very clearly says in the Bible that he does not do YHWH’s bidding and that his father is Theos. YHWH was the one who creaed monotheism and made everyone bring their idols of worship and drop them into the Kabba. YHWH is also one of the younger warmongers and also has an aboslute dislike of human woman. When he brought about monotheism he was the one who declared himself the almighty. The Anninaki came to help earth when we went through the flood. As for Muhummand there is no evidence he ever existed as is already on Youtube documented with lots of evidence.
You say, “YHWH is not and never will be God. He is part of the Elohim who are also know as the Annunaki.” Where are you getting that idea from?
You say, “Yeshuah (Jesus) very clearly says in the Bible that he does not do YHWH’s bidding and that his father is Theos.” What “bible” are you reading? And what is the name of the religion are you following?
Watch 5th kind (Paul Wallis) on Youtube and also the world reowned Translator Maro Biglino who was employed by the Vatican to do a direct ranslatiion of the original bible. Also watch Dismantling Islam by DR Jay Smith and you will hear all the evidence that the Saudi Royal Family have also accepted the facts about Muhammad never existed. All of this is coved on Youtube by experts in their field and with verses pointed out and evidence shown. At the end of the day all Abrahamic religions we werre doctored by Masons and others to suit their needs on control oh humaity. The original Bible does not mention the word God once anywhere in the bible. Bibles are from Sumerian text and doctored to suit naratives like our Politicians do with their Oligargy white trash friends. Man made and rewritten over and over again.
Hi Nicnak, I’m not looking for podcasts or YouTube videos to watch. I’m already aware of the narratives and propaganda that have been proliferating online over the last few years.
As I made clear in my question to him, I am asking Stuart James for names of specific people. I can guess a name that he will come up with, and only the one (which hardly justifies the description “the Jews”), but I don’t want to take a guess as to what he believes, or has been (mis)led to believe.
I want Stuart James to specify who “the Jews” in his remark “The Bank of England is the property of the Jews” are.
You say, “the original Bible does not mention the word God once anywhere in the bible.” What bible are you reading? It is not the Christian Bible as is proved by your comment, “All Abrahamic religions we werre doctored by Masons and others to suit their needs on control oh humaity,” which is a lie. While, for those who know God, there is a big question mark about Islam, the God of Jews and Christians is not a masonic invention (Judaism existed long before Masonry came into being). Aside from lacking common sense, the biggest problem is: Your statement denies the existence of God, worse still it is an attempt to convince people to turn against God – I wonder who would try to convince people of that?
The name of the Jew or Jews is irrelevant,
for it is the context and nature of the business, that is important.
In our contemporary world the business of bankers is multi racial. But in the seventeenth century and previous the business of banking is evident and is dominated by Jews.
The Bank of England remains Jewish from it’s inception of 1694 along with the federal reserve of America 1913
But for these bankers the first and second world wars would never have happened. When Hitler kicked these bankers out of Germany the Jewish bankers declared war on Germany and financed the destruction of Germany.
Anyone can see the evidence of the economic chaos that only the financial industry benefits from with their business of usury on a fiat currency.
There isn’t a single loan offer from the financial industry that they can validate!
And so in our contemporary world we have to endure their fictitious debt claims. The pain and misery of millions who suffer from this isn’t sustainable.
Adolf Hitler exposed the fraudulent business of Jewish bankers and proved that Germany could publish its own currency interest free and the nation thrived. The same happened with Gaddafi when he refused to enter contract banking with the Jewish bankers. The Jewish bankers declared war and destroyed a thriving economy. The same happened with Unkrain they had a good working economy. Before they agitated and pissed off Russia.
When John F Kennedy declared that he intended to end the monopoly of the federal reserve and publish American currency interest free … the Jews murdered him.
The federal reserve is the private property of the Jews.
Hi Stuart James, First you said “the Jews” own the Bank of England. Instead of answering my question, you are now you are accusing unnamed, unidentified “the Jews” of yet more. What is the names of the people you are calling “the Jews”? What is the names of the people who own the Federal Reserve and the people who murdered John F. Kennedy? What is the name of the people who own the Bank of England?
The names of the people are relevant. If you don’t know who these people are and can only refer to them as “the Jews,” you are using propaganda mantras, you are following an ideology, a belief system. As you know, propaganda does not aim to be truthful. The aim of propaganda is to get you to believe something, without any evidence, to manipulate your thoughts and behaviour.
By your second response to me, I can see you’ve been hood winked by neo-Nazi ideology. You need to dig a little deeper into who Adolf Hitler actually was and what the top brass of the Nazi party believed, as in what religion they followed. Unless you follow the same religion with the same aims, you won’t view them so admirably when you find out.
All you’re doing is attempting to deflect the fraudulent nature of their business.
The fact remains that without finance no war can happen. Only the Jewish bankers had the motive and the means with their fiat currencies of no value.
History is written by the victors that means any allegations against Germany or Adolf Hitler are suspect and most likely unfounded. You should be careful what you believe.
H Stuart James, if you cannot be more specific about who “the Jews” that you accuse are, then you have not done your research and are not providing any reliable/factual information, you are simply spreading an ideology, a belief. One day, you will realise whose ideology you are following and the damage you are doing doing by mindlessly spreading this ideology rather than trying to determine the facts/truth for yourself – I hope you realise your error before its too late.
I gave you a name for one of the original directors of the the bank of England at the inception in 1694 and the names are all in public domain for the jews that own the federal reserve but all you do side step the real issue. And maintain the story of these scam merchants and low life people that parasite from the world.
That is the fraudulent issue of their business of usury on fiat currency.
Apparently you support criminal activity.
And also suck up propaganda without any problem.
Hi Stuart James, so your story changes from “the Jews” own the Bank of England to providing a name of a director in 1694, which you believe based on a name provides evidence he was a Jew. Do you even understand what a Jew is? Or do you choose to ignore such facts?
How many governors and directors of the Bank of England have their been since 1694 – hundreds, thousands? Why haven’t you mentioned any of their religions?
The Bank of England is not privately owned. Since 1946, the Bank of England has been owned by the UK government. I’m guessing you’re choosing to ignore that fact as well.
You want to know why I am “side stepping” what you believe is “the real issue”? Because, as the statements above prove, you are ignorantly (ignorant by choice) following an ideology and, as you put it, “suck up propaganda without any problem.” You are doing the typical propagandist trick of trying to change your story when you’re challenged to prove what you say and you know you can’t.
No, the story is the same, you just do not like the reality of the truth.
And who owns the government! … the Crown and the directors and are some of the directors of the Bank of England.
Its a very small club and your’e not in it.
Why do you not appreciate the criminal act of fraud?
The effect on people and the pain and suffering, it does not seem to be of any concern to you. and you defend jews like they are your tribe. just like a jew would, are you jewish?
My original post was with : Germany proves that socialism does not work.
That should provide context of these post, my post here was in response to your use of my name in a post to someone who may have picked up my posts somewhere else.
And nothing to do with religion.
But I did post about religion, apparently not well received.
Have a good day.
Even General Patton acknowledged that he had engaged the wrong enemy… he died about two weeks later under suspicion circumstances; after he had posted his concerns.
Rhoda,
I was about to comment on Allah (I hope to soon!)-but reading this exchange between you and SJ, I thought it more appropriate to quote from p.302; A.W. Pink’s;
THE ANTICHRIST A Systematic Study of Satan’s Counterfeit Christ.
If Zechariah 5 be read right after Isaiah 2:6-9 we have the connecting link between it and Revelation 17. Isaiah 2 shows us the Jews as the owners of fabulous wealth, as being in guilty fellowship with “strangers”, and as universally given to idolatry. Zechariah 5 reveals that the emigration of apostate Israel (the “woman” in the midst of the Ephah) and the transference of her wealth to the land of Shinar. Revelation 17 and 18 give the ultimate outcome of this. Here we see apostate Israel in all her corrupt glory. She is pictured, first, as sitting upon many waters (v.1), which signifies “peoples, and multitudes, and nations and tongues” (v.15). These will support her by contributing to her revenues. The huge bond issues made by the nations to obtain loans, are rapidly finding their way into Jewish hands; and doubtless, it is the steadily accumulating interest from these which will soon make them the wealthiest nation of the world. That which has half bankrupted Europe will soon be used to array the Woman in purple and scarlet colour and gold and precious stones and pearls (v.4).
Pink (1886-1952) authored numerous works.
If anyone is interested, the context of this chapter can be read online:
https://ccel.org/ccel/pink/antichrist/antichrist.chap17.html
Hi Islander, What strikes me about many of the comments about religion or topics that in someway include a religious theme or linked to a religion is: How confident people are in believing and retelling lies, and how determined they are to reject the truth. It’s difficult to understand how this can be so … how minds can be literally blocked.
The sad thing is, it is all by choice. People get hooked into thinking they are in possession of “secret knowledge,” they find it all very exciting like they’re discovering something new that no one else knows, as if they are solving a mystery. They feel important and special in their new found knowledge, and one thing leads to another. Before they know it, their minds have been bound into a way of thinking that they don’t seem to be able to escape. There’s a reason why beliefs that people are following in their quest for secret/hidden knowledge are referred to as “mystery religions.”
Little do these “secret knowledge” hunters realise that nothing is new under the Sun because what all that these bits of “secret knowledge” of “mysteries” come down to was written roughly 2,000 years ago: “Mystery: Babylon the great the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth.” – Revelation 17:5. And the “mystery” was solved/exposed thousands of years before that, i.e. it never was a mystery, and there is no, nor ever has been, secret/hidden knowledge. I guess what it boils down to is we believe the Bible, in its entirety, is the word of God or we don’t.
I put a lot of the blame on todays YouTube culture. My wife has a friend that is on it all day! These people find their ‘gurus’ and once hooked, hang on their every word.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers having itching ears.
2 Timothy 4:3.
As for me, I believe in the plenary inspiration of Holy Writ, it is from Above.
Without quoting all the chapters and verses, briefly, the believer believes that the Father sent the Son and the Son sent the Holy Spirit. The same God, but three distinct Persons. We’re not polytheists!
Did Allah send the Son?
I would find it fruitless to engage with many who comment here.
Hi Islander, You say, “I would find it fruitless to engage with many who comment here.” I agree. I know I am unable to change people’s hearts and minds and my comments are not an attempt to do so (I suspect some of commentators have knowingly embraced the occult and they’ve found courage to voice their beliefs under a veil of anonymity). In the main, I don’t respond to comments for the sake of the commentator, but sometimes for the benefit of other readers.
People who follow the occult and other anti-God beliefs are by far in the minority (although we wouldn’t be able to tell that from the comments section of our website.) Their aim is to confuse and recruit people, but every one of us have been given a conscience by God, people need to use that conscience to discern good from evil and avoid falling into the trap.
Other times I respond because I find it difficult to stand idly by while God is publicly trashed, it’s as if Jesus is being crucified all over again (satan and his puppet occultists will, of course, love it when people do this). People can blame people 2,000 years ago for rejecting our Saviour and killing Him like a common criminal on a cross all they like, but people today are guilty of the same. People should remove the log out of their own eye before they try to remove the stick from someone else’s.
I don’t believe today’s media is to blame, I think it is a problem with human minds as has been the case since the world began. People find it easier, more exiting and possibly more profitable to follow lies. Since the beginning of time satan has made himself appear very appealing and enticing, today its no different – technology has opened up new channels/mediums for satan to get his message out, but if YouTube existed in the Garden of Eden, satan would have used it back then as well.
I don’t mean to be mean spirited Rhoda-I applaud all evangelism in the Name of Christ, I really do!
But, I believe (and I know you do too) there are commenters here that are only interested in “fighting their corners”, not questioning their position-they have an agenda. Your assertion “for the benefit of other readers” is BANG ON THE MARK!
One thing is to evangelise to someone in the flesh when you can look straight at them, but on the keyboard? we don’t know who we are up against-now that The Expose’s “real person badge” has disappeared, do we? (Not that I put any faith in that scheme!).
As for keyboard evangelism-I try my best, but I can only type with ONE finger, so my wpm is not remotely in the same league as yours by a thousand miles!
Anyway, reading your article, about the Ka’ba; it is something I’d not hitherto considered-why?
Your piece says there are 360 idols there? I would assume as there are 360 degrees in a circle? Oh! and 360 days in one year, that is until the popes messed up our calendar-foisting their false sun god heliocentric theory on us all. Try putting 365 degrees in a circle and formulate your mathematical calculations therefrom!
BTW the pie (3.14..) formula came from God (who else?) 1Kings 7:23.
Hi Islander, re the number of idols, i.e. 360, that were at the Kaaba: some propose it was to do with the number of days in the solar year but some think it represented a full circle (as in 360 degrees?). Personally, I don’t know the reason, its not something I’ve looked into in any great detail. Here’s a couple of articles that mention it, if its something that interests you:
1. The Pantheon of 360 Idols
2. 360 Idols, Sri Chakra, and Geometry of Kaaba
I’m no evangelist, I’m afraid. But I’m not worried about that because I believe that every one has to make the choice for themselves so I don’t feel the need to convince anyone of anything. All I feel I’m required to do is to be as truthful as I am able if I feel the occasion requires it, then God will do the rest. Certain articles bring about certain reactions, I’m aware of that before I even publish the article. The article above, in particular, was heavy on my heart to write for some reason (and then I happened on the article that I added at the end when I was confirming something I was writing in the article).
No! You ARE an evangelist, you make that much clear here in your defence of the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Jude 1:3.
I have just read a recent comment here (and a lots of ecumenical mishmash beside), I quote two:
1) “faith should unite, not divide.”
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace but a sword. Matthew 10:34.
2) “There are many paths that lead to the recognition of the One and each sincere soul who seeks truth and lives by conscience is walking to the Same source.”
If these quotes be true, (they are anything but!) then WHAT ever was the point of the crucifixion???? Makes zero sense to me!
WHY did God send His Son to die on the cross to atone for the sins of His elect people if they could be saved through other means?
The cross is the ONLY way.
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is NONE other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12.
Hi Islander, I still don’t see myself as an evangelist, it’s too grand a description to be applied to lil’ ‘ole me.
Regarding your comment beginning “I have just read a recent comment …” I agree. Although we should bear in mind that God has made provision for those who lived before Jesus came to Earth.
There are many people who lived in the Before Christ (BC) era who will enter the Kingdom of Heaven because of their faith in and obedience to God (YHWH). I don’t know how Jesus will judge those who have lived (or now choose to live) under God’s Law, but I believe whatever His judgement is, it will on a case by case basis, i.e. each person will receive a judgement that is specific to their faith (or not) in God and their obedience (or not) to God.
For those of us who have lived or live in the Anno Domini (AD) era and who have accepted Jesus as our Lord and Saviour, we are saved from judgement under the God’s Law – we are saved through faith, through the blood Jesus shed on the cross for our sins, through God sacrificing His Son, Jesus, so that we might have eternal life. Why is this necessary? Because none of us are without sin and if Jesus had not come to Earth, none of us would enter the Kingdom of Heaven. It is only because Jesus takes away our sins that we are able to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Rhoda,
Yes! that “provision” has always been there. The Old Testament saints have been saved by the precious atoning blood of Christ in exactly the same way as His New Testament saints are saved. You are so right! The only difference being is that they looked forward to the cross, we look back to it.
There is but ONE Redeemer. The first prophecy of Christ was given in Genesis 3:15, and many other OT examples could be given, the most notable imho, is Job 19:25:
For I know that my Redeemer liveth, and that He shall stand at the latter day upon the earth.
In the NT, we read of Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, WAITING for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him. Luke 2:25.
Likewise with Anna in the same chapter! If you do nothing else tonight, read the 2nd of Luke! It’s eyewatering!
If you’ve read DNA of the gods, you’ll realise the Anunnaki didn’t come here to help us. They came to extract Earth’s resources and create a race of slaves!…
If you’ve read DNA of the gods, you’ll realise the Anunnaki didn’t come to our realm to help us, they came to extract Earth’s resources and modify us into slaves!…
The problem with religion is religion, for it only serves those that control the religion. The Roman church and Judaism are examples of control over the masses. The christian religion is exposed to be another early control psyops of the masses. That the Roman church adopted for its apparent power over the masses and mixed with its pagan foundation.
Christ Jesus exposed this when he stated that he was the last of the priesthood. That means no christian religion!
Religion is man made and the results are plain to understand, we have thousands of years to consider and more chatter about who is who or not. Or my god (god is a title) is more powerful than yours. Seriously really does it this matter? No! not one jot. Because its all meaningless.
If anyone really wants to know the truth then drop the religion and all the stories that go with them … then simply stop all the mind chatter and have the grace to allow the creator to enter.
The Budda also stated that there was no religion and even said if you meet the Budda along the way… you should kill him!
Even atheism is a religion for it is group thought and man made.
Oh Rhoda
The short answer — according to mainstream historical and linguistic scholarship (not polemical sources) — is:
✅ Yes, “Allah” is the same God worshipped by Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Israel) — i.e. the God of the Hebrew Bible — in the understanding of both Jews, Christians, and Muslims when speaking of the Creator.
However, the article you quoted (by Rhoda Wilson and drawing on polemical Christian apologetics sites like Answering Islam) repeats long-debunked claims that “Allah” was a pagan moon god or a rebranded version of Hubal or Baal. Those assertions are rejected by virtually every serious historian of religion, Semitic linguist, or Qur’anic scholar — including Christian, Jewish, and secular academics.
Let’s separate historical fact from modern polemical myth:
1. Linguistic and historical origins of “Allah”
2. Pre-Islamic Arabian context
3. Hubal ≠ Allah
4. The Abrahamic linkIslam explicitly identifies its God as:
5. Why polemical confusion persists
✅ SummaryQuestionScholarly answerDoes “Allah” mean “the God”?Yes — linguistically identical to Hebrew Eloah.Is Allah the same God as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?Yes — in all Abrahamic faiths’ self-understanding.Was Allah originally a pagan moon god or Hubal?No — that is a modern myth with no academic support.Do Arab Christians and Jews use “Allah”?Yes, for centuries before and after Islam.
If you want, I can show direct linguistic evidence (ancient inscriptions, pre-Islamic poetry, and early Christian Arab texts) proving that “Allah” was already used to refer to the God of Abraham before Muhammad’s time. Would you like that evidence set?
Hi Kal Dani, My article above begins, “Allah means “the god.” No one disputes this.”
The article then goes on to describe that “Allah” was a generic word meaning “god” – including an unnamed god which was interpreted differently according to which tribe someone came from – before the monotheistic religion of Islam was conceived by Muhammad.
The Jews and Christians have always been monotheistic and have a specific name for God to identify Him from other “gods.” That name is YHWH. YHWH never changes, He is the same yesterday, today and forever. Christians do not always use the name YHWH, instead we commonly use the more generic term “god,” differentiating the one and only true God from the false gods with the use of a capital letter or a lower case letter.
The Arabs have not always been monotheistic. Muhammad himself was a pagan (polytheistic) before he became monotheistic, Allah was one of his tribe’s gods. What is the specific name of the generic word “Allah” used in Islam? Did Muhammad give a specific name to differentiate Allah from other gods, or did he simply leave it up to his followers to interpret who Allah (god) is for themselves, i.e. the perception of Allah is not specific and evolved, and may yet evolve further, over time? Even though the Koran bases itself on the Torah and the Christian Bible, the Koran removes the Torah/Biblical passage which specifically identifies God by His name, YHWH. Why did the author/s of the Koran do that?
Europeans are instinctively Pagan and always will be.
Rhoda, your article is not a study of sources. It is a collage of late church doctrine, polemical websites, and conjecture presented as fact. At best it is careless. At worst it is an attempt to catechise readers into a theology by misrepresenting another revelation. Here are the core errors and the corrections.
1) The sanctuary in Makkah is not a pagan invention you get to renameThe Qur’an states without ambiguity that the House predates Islam and was raised by Abraham and Ishmael.
You quote polemics about idols and then treat a temporary corruption as the essence of the sanctuary. The Qur’an treats the idols as an interruption and restores the Abrahamic axis. You never engage this primary claim. You replace it with gossip and call it history.
2) Your Trinity is not the only way to speak of GodYou assert that God must be three persons, then use a human body soul spirit analogy to force readers toward that conclusion. The Qur’an answers with unfractured unity.
Unity does not need persons to act. Divine action proceeds by command, not by internal division.
You never show why your ontology should bind all nations and all prophets. You simply announce it and then use it to dismiss everything else.
3) “Allah equals Hubal” is a category mistakeYour own citations acknowledge that pre Islamic Arabs acknowledged a Most High while misusing intermediaries. The Qur’an quotes them saying they only used idols to get closer to Allah, then condemns that logic outright.
This is decisive. The pagans distinguished between Allah as Creator and their tribal mediators. The Qur’an abolishes the mediators. You collapse the distinction in order to smear the Name itself. That is either ignorance of the Qur’anic argument or a deliberate refusal to present it.
4) The three goddesses are named in order to be rejected, not absorbedYou parade al Lat, al Uzza, and Manat as if naming them taints Islam. The Qur’an names them to expose the double standard of men who imagined daughters for God while disdaining daughters for themselves, then dismisses the entire construct as baseless names.
You quote the old trope about the so called Satanic verses, then ignore the Qur’anic principle that answers interference and preserves the perfected recitation.
You retail the rumour and silence the correction.
5) Jesus in the Qur’an is honoured without being deifiedYou state that denying the deity of Jesus is ignorance. The Qur’an records the scene that nullifies the claim at its root.
Jesus is a sign, a word from God by command, supported by the Spirit, and a servant who points to the One. You never engage this primary claim. You shift the debate to John 1 and then pretend the Qur’an must submit to your creed.
6) “Is Allah the God of Israel” is a loaded question that the Qur’an already disarmsThe Book refuses tribal ownership of the Name and invites the People of the Book to recognise the same God without partners.
Your piece turns this bridge into a wall by insisting that only a Trinitarian formula can count as belief in the God of Abraham. That is theology as gatekeeping, not argument.
7) On method, you quote around the Qur’an rather than through itYou lean on encyclopaedia entries, popular apologetics, and loaded glosses. You never meet the Qur’an’s claims at their strongest points. You never show why the Qur’an’s restoration of the House should be dismissed. You never show why its purification of worship should be ignored. You never show why its presentation of Jesus should be ruled out in advance. You simply import a creed and use it as a ruler.
A plain conclusionThe Qur’an’s case is straightforward. The House is Abrahamic. The Name is One. The path to God is direct. Idols and intermediaries are human inventions. Jesus is honoured as sign and messenger, not as partner in divinity. If you wish to disagree, do so by confronting those claims directly. Do not smear the Name by conflating it with a tribal idol. Do not teach readers that unity needs three persons to be real. Do not pretend that restoration is the same as absorption.
“Truth has come, and falsehood has vanished. Indeed falsehood is bound to vanish.” (17:81)
You can keep repeating polemical lore about Hubal and Baal or you can meet the Qur’an on the ground it chooses. If you want a serious conversation, start with the verses above and explain why they do not say what they plainly say. If you prefer to keep your readers on a diet of insinuation and second hand claims, then call your piece what it is. It is not history. It is persuasion by fog.
Hi M.S.R., from the article above, Allah is a generic word meaning “god.” It was a word used by pagans before the monotheistic religion of Islam came into being. Does Allah in Islam have a specific name that distinguishes the monotheistic Allah from the polytheistic Allah?
In English, god refers to any being or inanimate object people assign divinity status to – “god” is a generic term used by pagans and polytheists as well as monotheists. Basically, anyone can call anything, even an idol made of stone or wood, god. To distinguish the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel) from all other “gods,” He called Himself YHWH. The passage in the Bible where God gives His name has been removed from the Quran. I find this curious. The Quran refers its readers to “the Scriptures” (the Torah and the Christian Bible) so why, when He is named in “the Scriptures,” is YHWH not named in the Quran as the specific name for Allah? Is it that Allah is not YHWH, the Almighty God?
You say, “You can keep repeating polemical lore about Hubal and Baal or you can meet the Qur’an on the ground it chooses.” I don’t follow the Quran’s teachings, I follow the Bible’s teachings. I have no need to meet the Quran on the ground that it chooses; I meet God on the ground He chooses – and I encourage you to do the same. I encourage you to read the Bible and choose to establish a personal relationship with God through His Son, Jesus Christ. There is only one God but He is three distinct and inseparable Persons: God the Father (YHWH, Yahweh, Adonai, Jehovah), God the Son (Jesus, Yeshua) and God the Holy Spirit.
Rhoda, thank you for your message and for engaging with sincerity. But before we continue, we must draw a clear line between language and truth, and between man-made theology and divine revelation.
1. “Allah” is not a pagan name
The word Allah predates Islam and is not the name of an idol. It derives from al-ilah, The God, the same Semitic root found in the Hebrew Eloah and the Aramaic Alaha. Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians have used Allah for centuries; their Bibles still do.
When an Arab Christian recites the Lord’s Prayer, every occurrence of God is Allah. When Jesus cried from the cross, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani,” (Matthew 27:46), Eli means my God, the same root that forms Allah.
To suggest that Arabic-speaking believers worship a different being because of the sound of a word is to ignore the entire linguistic continuity of the Semitic world. The Qur’an reclaimed that same universal title, purifying it of the intermediaries and idolatries that had gathered around it. The Qur’an exposes that inconsistency and restores direct remembrance of the Creator without partners or proxies.
2. YHWH and Allah express the same reality in sister tongues
YHWH in Hebrew means He Who Is, the very ground of being. The Qur’an conveys the same essence in Arabic: “Indeed, I am Allah; there is no deity except Me.” (20:14)
Different letters, same meaning. Arabic, Aramaic, and Hebrew are branches of one family. It would be as absurd to say that the French Dieu and the English God refer to different beings as to claim that YHWH and Allah are distinct deities.
3. The Qur’an does not remove the Name, it restores its meaning. You suggest the Qur’an “removed” the divine name. It did not. It expanded it through ninety-nine revealed attributes, The Merciful, The Compassionate, The Living, The Sustainer, The Truth and so many more! These are not replacements; they are facets of the same Being. The Qur’an moves the discussion from how to pronounce the Name to how to live by it.
Hebrew tradition itself avoided pronouncing the Tetragrammaton out of reverence. The Qur’an continues that reverence by focusing on meaning rather than syllables.
4. The God of Jesus and the God of the Qur’an are the same One Jesus prayed to the God of Israel: “This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.” (John 17:3)
Even the Gospels makes a clear distinction between the Sender and the sent. The Qur’an simply returns to that clarity: “The Messiah said, O Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord.” (5:72)
This is not denial of Jesus, it is the preservation of his own message.
5. The Qur’an was revealed in Arabic but speaks to all humanity
The Qur’an came in Arabic because its first hearers were Arabs, not because the message belongs to them.
“We have revealed it as an Arabic Qur’an so that you may understand.” (12:2)
“It is nothing less than a reminder to all worlds.” (81:27)
Language is the vessel, not the boundary. Its wisdom addresses every heart capable of reflection.
6. Faith should unite, not divide
Rather than policing vocabulary and demonising linguistic cousins, sincere seekers should focus on the real deception of our age, the global forgetting of God through distraction, ego, and illusion. Those who serve falsehood thrive on division. They rejoice when believers quarrel over words while the world slides further into moral decay.
True scholars and people of discernment do not draw lines of hatred between those who bow to the same Creator. They seek the common light. To divide, rule, and demonise is the work of power, not wisdom.
7. My own perspective
I have read the various Bibles, Hebrew, Greek, and English, and hold deep respect for all genuine revelation. I do not see the world as polarised between saved and damned camps. There are many paths that lead to the recognition of the One and each sincere soul who seeks truth and lives by conscience is walking toward the same Source. I refuse to confine the Infinite to a single vocabulary or to throw stones at others in the name of sanctimonious certainty.
True faith is humility before the One who cannot be contained by creeds, yet is present in every heart that remembers Him.
Finally, please consider this Rhoda; Allah and YHWH are not rivals. They are the same Eternal Reality speaking through different human tongues. The challenge before us is not to prove ownership of God, but to resist the systems of deception that estrange humanity from Him altogether.
Let us recognise that unity and act from it. To do otherwise is to serve the adversary, not the Almighty.
Hi M.S.R. Thank you for your response. However the question remains, is Allah a different god to YHWH. You say, “Allah and YHWH are not rivals” which implies that Allah is not YHWH. Is that what you meant?
I am not referring to the word “god” in different tongue, in a different language; every language, every culture will have a word for “god” in their language. I am referring to distinguishing between the one and only true God, whose name is YHWH, from the multitude of other gods. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel) called Himself YHWH (translated into English as “IAM WHO I AM”) as it is written in the Hebrew Bible (the Torah) and the Christian Bible
Rhoda, to be clear, Allah is the same God as YHWH — the Creator of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the One who revealed guidance through every prophet. Again, the difference lies not in who He is, but only in language.
If you took time to read the Qur’an, as you kindly suggested I read the Bible, you would see that it speaks of the same God you revere, without partners, intermediaries, or division. Perhaps then, with insight and sincerity, you would recognise that we are not speaking of different beings, but of the same Eternal One.
If you seek deeper dialogue, I welcome it — but perhaps reach out directly, so we can speak with openness rather than play ego tennis in public. Truth deserves better.
Hi M.S.R. I haven’t read it to any significant degree but I have skimmed through the Quran and from what I’ve read there are some parts that are the same as what Christians believe (I assume these are taken from the Bible or the Torah) but there are also many differences; there also seems to be misinterpretations of the Bible and added extra-Biblical concepts.
You are perhaps misunderstanding why I have been asking you questions. I’m not wanting to debate the differences between Islam and Christianity, there are many and it’s a never ending debate. I have had Muslim friends with whom I have had many discussions about their beliefs, I find Muslims are very open about what they believe and are happy to discuss it. I’m also not trying to convert you to Christianity or convince you I’m right. From what I read in the Quran, it refers to and by so doing suggests/encourages its readers to read the Bible, if Muslims do that, they will find the truth for themselves. All I wanted to establish is whether you, personally, worship YHWH (also known as Yahweh, Adonai, Jehovah) as your God.
As a Christian, I believe the Bible in its entirety. And I believe the Bible is the written word of God (God inspired). It is though reading the Bible that we learn about God and it is through accepting Jesus Christ as our personal saviour that we are able to have a personal relationship with God. To help and guide us until He returns to Earth, Jesus sent us His Holy Spirit.
Dear Rhoda,
Thank you for your thoughtful note. I sense a softer tone in this message, and I truly appreciate it. You speak from sincerity, and that always deserves respect.
For me, these exchanges are never about defending a religion or winning a debate. The Qur’an I follow (akin to the Bible you follow) calls continually to reflection, to look both inward and outward for signs of the One. My search has led me to see that much of what passes for “religion” today, including mainstream Islam, as well as institutionalised Christianity and Judaism, has become layered with human authority, politics, and tradition. What began as revelation has often hardened into ritual and hierarchy.
That is why my own focus is not on dogma but on truth itself. I believe the same Creator who spoke through the prophets still speaks through the conscience and the intellect He placed within us. The divine spark, as I often describe it, is already present in every person who sincerely seeks what is real.
I think you might appreciate my website, “axisoftruth dot com”. It explores these very themes, how deception operates in the modern world and how humanity can return to genuine remembrance of God, unmediated by man-made systems. In that sense, our aims are not far apart: both your work and mine try to expose illusion and call people back to awareness of the Almighty.
So while we may use different scriptures or languages, the essence of what we seek feels remarkably similar.
The One we worship is not confined to names or institutions. He is the same Source of life, justice, and truth who breathed spirit into us all.With respect and best wishes. Keep up the good work exposing the deception around us.
Best,
M.S.R.
Abraham is the father of both Jews and arabs. Allah is not a god! The things he tells his followers to do are evil.