Yesterday, Professor Norman Fenton published a personal statement explaining why he started posting about Israel on 7 October. It also exposes some of the most popular lies believed about Israel.
From reading his personal account, it’s clear that the unnecessary, hurtful and mostly ignorant anti-Israel rhetoric from people within the freedom movement is causing much damage. The Globalists must be delighted with what they’re managing to accomplish through people unwittingly aiding their cause to break up mass resistance to their plans.
We should pause and give some thought to what we’re doing to each other. We need to find a way to work together rather than indiscriminately tear down the resistance that’s taken so many so long to build up. Words do matter. We need to try to do better to find the right words, for the right time and the right place.
Note from RW: I respect and admire Prof. Fenton’s courage in writing this very personal article knowing that there are likely many who will deride him for doing so. I feel ashamed of those people who, so I thought. saw people as individuals and respected inalienable rights including the freedom of expression but, judging by their comments, appear to have fallen into a collectivist racist narrative that harks back to Nazi Germany. It’s disappointing to see that they have become the very thing they have been fighting against. And for what? Clickbait? I will not be a party to it.
Prof. Fenton, I’m sorry that the people you have fought alongside in the trenches have turned on you. I can find no excuse for their behaviour. They have disregarded two foundational rules we must obey when we exercise our freedoms: respect where respect is due and do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
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Israel and the Freedom movement: a personal statement by Norman Fenton
By Professor Norman Fenton
Who I am
Most of my followers on Twitter and YouTube will know me because of the probability and statistics work I have done challenging the official narrative on covid (and more recently net zero). You could say I am part of what is known as the “Freedom movement”. While many people within the Freedom movement regularly comment on political issues outside of those directly relevant to it, I tried to avoid doing this.
So, many of you will have been surprised by the fact that, since 7 October 2023 when Hamas launched its murderous attack against Israel, I have been regularly commenting on the situation in Israel. I want to explain why, unlike many others who have waded in with their opinions, I have special interest and insights to provide.
First of all, my background: I was born Norman Finkelstein (not the anti-Israel activist of the same name!) the son of Ben Finkelstein a Holocaust survivor from Poland – the sole survivor from his large family after he escaped the Lodz ghetto in 1940. His story can be found HERE in the Museum of the Jewish Soldier.
My mother was born in the UK, but her father was born in Jerusalem in 1891 in what was then part of “Palestine” which meant his nationality was Turkish as you can see from his certificate of naturalisation when he became a British citizen in 1947.

Note that there was no Palestinian national identity because when he was born it was simply a province of the Turkish Ottoman empire. Because of the nonsense propaganda now widely believed (that Jews only arrived in Palestine after World War 2), many are surprised when they find out my grandfather was from Jerusalem. But Palestine was then a sparsely populated region and there was a Jewish majority in Jerusalem even then. My wife’s maternal grandfather was also from Jerusalem. However, my grandfather’s family were forced to leave Palestine after one of the many Arab riots and pogroms against Jews several years before Israel’s independence in 1948. Another poorly known fact is that many of these Arabs had themselves only arrived in Palestine from Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt when Jewish immigration there in the early 1900’s led to the creation of a flourishing economy which created some prosperity and jobs.
So, my own family’s history disproves the widely believed lie that there was an independent Arab state called Palestine in the years leading up to 1948 in which Jews and Arabs lived together in harmony. Indeed, the only people in the land who referred to themselves as “Palestinians” prior to 1948 were the Jews. That is why all the “evidence” of a vibrant “State of Palestine” pre-1948 that gets churned out on social media every so often (whether it be the national football team or the national currency) turns out to be entirely Jewish.


Unsurprisingly, both my wife and I have extensive family living in Israel (my wife’s entire family including her two sisters live there as does my brother and his family). Like almost all Jews in the world, I am a Zionist – which is simply the belief in the right of the Jewish people to their own state in their indigenous homeland of Israel. We have our own small apartment there and, prior to covid, would go there every few weeks. Sadly my wife, who was diagnosed with frontotemporal dementia in 2019, was so desperate to go back to see her family when Israel finally opened its borders for “fully vaccinated” people in spring 2021 that she had two doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine (as I reported HERE).
Shortly after her second dose her condition deteriorated rapidly to the point where she no longer knows who her family are, and her condition is such that it is now too difficult for me to take her to Israel. We otherwise would have been in Israel on the day of the Hamas attack as it happened on the Jewish festival of Simchat Torah.
I believe this gives me a right to have an opinion about what happens in Israel. It also means I know more about the Israeli mentality and Israeli politics than most of those promoting themselves as “experts” on twitter and elsewhere (many of whom have never been to Israel).
Antisemitism in the “Freedom movement”
As a member of the “Freedom movement,” even before the Hamas attacks, I became concerned about the increasing antisemitism, under the guise of obsessive Israel hatred of many within the movement. Note that do I do not use the accusation of antisemitism against anybody lightly. Indeed, I abhor the tactic used by leftists and establishment figures to slur anybody using the word “globalist” or criticising people like George Soros as antisemites. I have even been called an antisemite myself for challenging the globalist agenda and criticising Soros’s role in it. I made a public defence of Andrew Bridgen MP when he was accused of being an antisemite, in one of many examples where this accusation is used to shut down debate about issues like vaccine harms. I also believe that influential left-wing Jews and “Jewish” organisations like the ADL in America and the Board of Deputies in the UK have done enormous harm to the Jewish community by aligning themselves with the woke agenda and campaigns to silence those opposed to the globalist narrative and the Great Reset, including with many false accusations of antisemitism.
Nor do I believe that valid criticism of the Israeli Government is antisemitic. Indeed, I was especially critical of the Israeli Government’s appalling covid strategy ranging from the lockdowns, the ludicrous “green pass,” and its role as “Pfizer’s laboratory.” I also wrote extensively about the corruption of the Israeli Ministry of Health’s role in exaggerating vaccine efficacy and covering up safety issues.
But the obsessive hatred of Israel among many in the Freedom movement has nothing to do with Israel’s covid policy. Rather, it is focused on the lies about the modern history of Israel and on the antisemitic trope that “Zionists” are at the heart of the globalist tyranny and are also behind most of the evil events that have taken place in the last 70 years. This was all brought into sharp focus in June 2023 when I attended the Better Way Conference in Bath. Every speaker and sponsor was given a beautifully wrapped copy of Feargus O’Connor Greenwood’s book, ‘180 Degrees: Unlearn the Lies You’ve Been Taught to Believe’. Written in an engaging style, the book is being praised for exposing sinister conspiracies. But a recurring theme in the book are conspiracies about Zionists and Israel, most of which are easily debunked by anybody prepared to do real research. This prompted me, along with the journalist Karen Harradine, to write a series of articles that challenged the assumptions and narratives in the book and argued that such “anti-Zionism” would gravely discredit the Freedom movement.


The 7 Oct Hamas attacks exposes more extensive antisemitism in the Freedom movement
As concerned as I already was about the latent antisemitism masquerading as anti-Zionism, nothing prepared me for the shock of discovering how widespread this antisemitism was within the Freedom movement following the devasting Hamas attack against Israel on 7 October. In one day alone Hamas massacred over 1,300 civilians and took over 200 hostage – mostly women and children. The Hamas terrorists live-streamed much of the slaughter, which included the sadistic murder of many children and babies, and even a 90-year-old Holocaust survivor Gina Smiatich, who was dragged out of a shelter in her own home in Kibbutz Kissufim, taken to her living room, forced to kneel and then shot in the back of her head. The level of barbarity exceeded that of the Nazis. The scale and nature of this atrocity for a country like Israel is beyond comprehension. Based on population size this would be the equivalent of 13,000 killed in the UK (250 times bigger than the 7/7 London attacks which was the largest terrorist atrocity in the UK) and over 60,000 in the USA (20 times bigger than the 9/11 attacks). There is not a single family in Israel who does not know somebody who was murdered or kidnapped. The evidence of the massacres that took place is being documented HERE.
My brother’s daughter (like all youngsters conscripted to the IDF) was at the scene of the aftermath of one of the villages destroyed by the Hamas terrorists. She says that even the most graphic images and videos that have been circulating do not convey a fraction of the horrors that were committed. The dead included entire families with children and babies and many of the bodies were mutilated. Many were burnt alive with their hands bound behind their back. The terrorists were not content just to kill people – they clearly tortured them first, cutting off body parts including heads. These were completely defenceless people young and old. Because there are not enough medical staff to deal with the dead bodies, she had to help carry the bodies away. She is traumatised. Her brother (now called up like all my other nieces and nephews) had several of his friends murdered.
Yet, even before Israel responded to the attack and the continued barrage of rockets from Gaza (over 9,000 fired in 14 days), many of those in the “Freedom movement” who have absolutely no connection to Israel or knowledge of the conflict were already proclaiming either that:
- a) the attacks did not actually happen;
- b) the attacks were a ‘false flag’ inside job (victim blaming); or
- c) the attacks were justified because of Israel’s “oppression” of the Palestinians.
Leading the anti-Israel narrative were inevitably prominent anti-Zionist “Jews” (who act as shields for antisemites to quote). Some, like Max Blumenthal immediately justified the attacks:

Others, like Rivkah Brown openly celebrated the massacre:

Many accused me of lying when I recited my niece’s experience. Almost nobody expressed sympathy:


Of course, when Israel responded by targeting Hamas infrastructure in Gaza and sites from which rockets continue to be fired, the anti-Israel hysteria went into overdrive. As usual there was no recognition of the fact that, in contrast to Hamas actively targeting civilians in this and previous attacks, Israel warns civilians in Gaza of impending danger, going to extraordinary lengths to avoid non-combatant casualties. And whereas Israel ensures its civilians are in shelters from the Hamas rockets, Hamas makes no attempt to protect civilians and places its infrastructure and weapons in hospitals and schools. This guarantees an asymmetric civilian casualty rate whatever is done.
People who I had previously respected were filling their Twitter feeds with the usual lazy narrative of lies about Israel that Karen and I wrote about in our articles. The very people who previously said that no corporate news media could be trusted to tell the truth were happy to accept without question every ludicrous claim coming from the Hamas media centre in Gaza and other Arab and anti-Israel news agencies.
Leading the barrage of anti-Israel and antisemitic abuse from the Freedom movement was this prominent doctor who has almost 1 million followers on Twitter (see HERE for a detailed account of her antisemitism):


Here are more examples of hate-filled anti-Israel rhetoric by those who have been prominent in the Freedom movement:




Interestingly, many were using as a “source” of information a guy called Keith Woods who in 2019 made clear his hatred of Jews:

For example, here is Patrick Hennigsen who has been relentless in pushing the pro-Hamas narrative:

They also regularly use Lucas Gage as a source:

And, of course, members of the Freedom movement were keen to repost the usual useful idiots of the hard left like the British Labour MP Chris Williamson:

Many of those trumpeting the anti-Israel narrative on Twitter use the same tactics as Greenwood in his book: they cite anti-Zionist Jews and anti-Zionist Israeli activists as their sources, assuming that this can protect them from accusations of antisemitism.

They are particularly fond of citing this guy Dan Cohen (probably because the name is an especially helpful protection):

Cohen still has not removed these posts about the bombing of the Ah-Ahli hospital (the bomb came from a failed rocket of Islamic Jihad):

The views of this small number of anti-Zionist Jews are amplified to such an extent that many are led to believe they represent a consensus, whereas, in reality, they are a tiny fringe minority among Jews worldwide. The same people who use the fringe in this way would at the same time deny that Hamas represents the average Palestinian citizen.
Where we are now
The Israeli nation is traumatised and now fears that more young men and women will die in trying to rescue the hostages and get rid of Hamas. Meanwhile hundreds of rockets a day continue to be fired from Gaza and now also from Lebanon and Syria so that everybody has to continually rush to shelters. Yet many of the “Freedom movement” voices refuse to recognise any of this reality while continuing to push Hamas propaganda.
Since speaking out against the official covid narrative I was ostracised, censored, and vilified. I lost my academic career, as well as people who I previously regarded as friends and colleagues. But set against that was the perception that I had found a far more valued community of like-minded people, committed to freedom and justice. To discover that many of these people proudly sided with genocidal antisemitic terrorists is a bitter pill to swallow. And, many of my previous followers have denounced me:

I will end with a quote by Rosa Koire in her brilliant 2011 book ‘Behind the Green Mask: U.N. Agenda 21’ (a book which predicts and explains everything that the globalists, with their Great Reset and Net Zero policies, have executed in the last few years). Early in the book Koire warns:
Another reason why you may not have heard of UN Agenda 21 before is because opposition to it is often conflated with anti-Semitism. Calling it a “Zionist plot” is absurd considering that Zionism is an ultra-nationalistic movement that is completely opposed to the dissolution of national boundaries. (Israel is about the size of Vancouver Island and slightly larger than New Jersey). If you’re approaching it from that angle, I urge you to drop those attitudes. It is not productive, not realistic (you could say it’s a Protestant plot, would that make sense?), and feeds right into the dialectic that pits us against one another. The mainstream media can then refer to it as “fringe” and that justifies their lack of reportage. Demonising all liberals is foolish and wrong’. She tells us not to ‘play the alienation game’ and that ‘we need to work together’.
Koire’s warning, that antisemitism in all its forms discredits any movement indulging in it, is as apposite today as it was 12 years ago. But sadly, such antisemitism is present within today’s Freedom movement.
About the Author
Norman Fenton is a Professor of Risk Information Management at the Queen Mary University of London. He is also a Director of Agena, a company that specialises in risk management for critical systems. He is a mathematician by training whose current focus is on critical decision-making and, in particular, on quantifying uncertainty using causal, probabilistic models that combine data and knowledge (Bayesian networks). The approach can be summarized as “smart data rather than big data.”
The above is a blog authored by Prof. Fenton titled ‘‘Israel and the Freedom movement: a personal statement by Norman Fenton’. You can follow him on his website HERE or Twitter HERE.

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I am extremely appreciative of Prof.’ Fenton’s work exposing the Covid facts and we are indeed lucky to have had him support freedom throughout the Covid debacle. BUT, he is so close to what is happening in Israel, he cannot be relied upon to be impartial. He is human. It is not sensible to align one’s support with either the Israeli government or Hamas. The only group I align myself with are the Israeli victims and the Palastinian victims. These are the people who have my sympathy and support.
Agreed. Its high time people were more honest about the fact most influential governments of the world and all terrorirst organisations are the devil’s work to a greater or lesser extent – they are all to some extent his puppets. And that is always the innocent people of the world that pay the terrible price of that fact.
It makes propogating violence and division so easy when you can influence and bankroll both sides of a conflict and stir division through your media mouthpieces. Many governments themselves are akin to behaving as terror orrganisations. 9/11 was an inside job. 7/7 was an inside job. Many manchurian candidates have been used to carry out terror attacks in many countries throughout history. To not recognise this is naive and lays people open to being manipulated further into division, hatred and war – which will result in the suffring of innocent people again.
To say it is victim blaming to identify and call such deceptions as 9/11 is a bizzare statement. It is by way of deception thta our real enemies do war so calling out false flags is of paramount importance. Because our real enemies are following an ANTI HUMAN agenda. They serve demons who revel in our ignorance and promote it. To think the Israeli government – or deep state aspects of it – don’t indulge in such subterfuge tactics in the face of evidence to the contrary is unhelful for the human cause. It also goes against the facts on the ground provided by ex IDF who know how things work at the border.
Most of us respect the right for all human beings right to live in peace. Traditionally most of us want a peaceful planet upon which to reaise our families and know our loved ones will not be blown up or poisoned by a government injection. People need to cultivate themselves as powerful spiritual beings and become as clear as possible in themselves about what they do and don’t represent. Recognising that fomenting war and violence and division is a part of an anti human agenda is a key part of that clarity and can help unite people properly.
Hi Ken, unfortunately, from a lot of the comments I’ve seen on social media it seems there are a many who can’t be relied on to be impartial. They have allowed emotions to usurp rational thinking.
Prof. Fenton at least has personal insight and experience which a number of prominent people who claim they are “resisting tyranny” lack. You cannot deny personal experience, eye witness accounts, as a very important part of evidence gathering. The other advantage Prof. Fenton has is that he is remaining relatively calm in an ever worsening situation – the social commentators are not, even though they have not personally encountered trauma.
There is a lot of disinformation being spread and psychological operations being used about the Israel-Hamas war. And it seems there are people within the “Freedom movement” that have fallen for it hook line and sinker. How? Because they went in with pre-conceived ideas, ideas probably put into their minds from previous PsyOps. It’s very disappointing that, after three years of resisting tyranny, some people haven’t learnt to keep an eye out for this and recognise it when it happens.
Are the bombings of Gaza happening or not?, if they are, are the lives of Palestinians worth less than Israelis?
Hi Jose, I don’t want to see any innocent, unarmed lives harmed or destroyed by people who have guns and bombs. I do not see the difference between locations, nationalities, religions or race. Everyone has the right to be able to live their lives freely in peace and security, as long as that person is not harming or intending to harm or remove another person’s life, property or inalienable rights.
I’m sorry this is so long but there are a lot of questions we should be asking. Unfortunately they are not being asked because many are too busy taking sides, as if they are in the midst of war themselves. Here are some of questions I’ve been asking myself.
It may be useful to first have a read of the article linked below for a different perspective to yours. Different perspectives, calmly and clearly stated, are important help us to free up our minds and start to ask questions.
The gullible West is falling for Hamas’s fictitious death figures
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/25/the-gullible-west-is-falling-for-hamass-fictitious-death-fi/
How you should have started your comment was: What Hamas did is atrocious. Then I would ask:
If Hamas’ cause is really for Palestinians, ALL Palestinians, why does Hamas not release the Israeli hostages and move away from the Palestinians?
How many of the Palestinians that have been killed by Israeli bombs are Hamas?
Why is the ongoing bombing of Israel ignored by those who think Israeli bombs are “unjust” or “unlawful”?
Why is The UN-Secretary General and other international organisations riddled with Israelophobia? Reminiscent of neo-Nazi ideologies we’ve seen promoted and celebrated by government officials in Ukraine and Canada?
Once I had the answers to all those questions, and more, then I would feel I could more easily work out what is actually happening in the region, not just Israel/Palestine.
There is a lot of misinformation and propaganda being spread. False videos, videos from old conflicts, false stories, false comments, inaccuracies about what is happening etc. So far the bad information seems to be more vicious and worse than what was spread since the beginning of the Ukraine/Russia conflict.
In that article – “Visibly shaken, Mr Al-Dahdouh told the Arabic news channel that it was ‘clear’ what had happened. ‘This is a series of targeted attacks on children, women and civilians,’ he said.”
Who owns the media in Israel and Palestine?, why was almost everything censored during covid but now suddenly everything is allowed about this war?, things go a lot deeper than what it seems.
Have you thought about the possibility of the war being just another card in the depopulation agenda?, the globalists do not care about countries or people, do you remember the Georgia guide stones?
I am not taking sides because it is ultimately innocent people that pay the price for all senseless wars, which they all are.
I have a useful piece of information for you, Mr. Rothschild recently bought big pieces of land and rights to dig fur oil in Israel, near the conflict zones.
Twenty five-thirty years ago I knew nothing about true religion other than having a vague notion that there may be a God. Back then, from a schoolkid upwards I was an avid supporter of Glasgow Celtic (Roman Catholic football club/origins), but a few years after coming to the Faith, I realised I was a Protestant! Therefore I switched allegiance to the ‘arch enemy” the unionist/Protestant Glasgow Rangers! I was a victim of sectarianism without knowing it!
Today, I couldn’t care which team wins-“Its only a game!!!”
Sadly, not just up here, football for many is a religion as you would know.
Sad also to see great swathes of Celtic supporters waving the Palestinian flag last night:(
Obviously I would have said the same if Glasgow Rangers were waving the Israeli flag. The PsyOps deceptions are winning the day, sadly.
Well said Ken.
unfortunately it are always the people down in the street who suffer. I have no clue as to what exactly is going on (I suppose no one but the big high-ups have) but I feel sorry for all those that lost their lives, or lost family and friends in this massacre on both sides. Recently a visitor of Israel wrote how before this happened, muslims, jews, christians, arabs, what all you got, were on friendly terms. This reminds me of Yugoslavia, where they all intermarried, and then the fire went off, and brothers killed their sisters, married to ‘enemies’… how easily people forget how they sat and ate together, when govt and war mongers push them. So sad.
Moral preening which ignores the serious issues of a country under attack that has to defend itself.
“The Israel-Hamas War Is Already Pushing The Great Reset Agenda”
In this article – from TheOriginalSai –
“Those who once stood united, due to their experiences of a manipulated Covid-19 Pandemic & subsequent roll out of experimental vaccines, are now all divided over a manipulated situation involving Palestine & Israel.
Please give yourselves a pat on the back. You all deserve a medal.””
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/israel-hamas-war-already-pushing-great-reset-agenda
This issue was created over a century ago when Rothschild penned in the creation of Israel on the map where it had long since vanished.
Trying to create a Jewish state in the middle of a Muslim Middle East was never going to work and expect all Muslim who were living on that land to be subservient to a government that was not of their own.
I take no sides and support no side on this because I know if land was taken from me and I was to be forced to recognize a new government that would anger me.
The two state solution in the region all those world leaders go on about is BS that was a pacification mechanism to try to make it seem reasonable to what had been allowed. Bit like you have the choice to not take the vaxx but they will start and freeze you to death if you do not.
I am extremely reluctant to criticise Prof. Fenton. I am sure he is man of fine principles and honesty, who aims for a truthful and balanced view of the world.
He writes – “Nor do I believe that valid criticism of the Israeli Government is antisemitic” – it’s a great pity that in the UK, most of our politicians and the media don’t take that view.
However, I suspect that he has not got a totally balanced view, and that is understandable. His family history must have a powerful influence on him.
He writes – “I know more about the Israeli mentality and Israeli politics than most of those promoting themselves as “experts” – then he must know about the Israeli settlers who carry out violent attacks on Palestinians, murder them, burn their homes and destroy their crops to starve them and deprive them of income.
I could post a great deal of evidence but when I have tried, it usually doesn’t appear. One that did get through was the article that had a video of an Israeli policewoman shooting an innocent Palestinian man – that shows the mentality of many Israelis. I hope Prof. Fenton takes incidents like into account when he talks of the Israeli mentality.
He writes – “conspiracies about Zionists and Israel, most of which are easily debunked by anybody prepared to do real research” – what is “real research”? Is he saying that the only valid research is that which backs up the Zionist point of view?
Years ago I used to see Israel as the innocent victim of Islamic terror. After I saw the Palestinians dancing and celebrating the Sept 11th attacks, I hated them.
It was some years after that when I first heard of Zionism. I suppose I came across the “conspiracies about Zionists and Israel” to which Prof. Fenton refers. I didn’t immediately believe \ fall for it, but I found it interesting as it seemed well researched.
Years went by and I occasionally read more on the subject. I read with suspicion and with an enquiring mind, and I looked for authoritative works backed up with solid evidence. My years of working in science and IT involved a lot of research and problem solving, so I consider myself well equipped to analyse facts and to arrive at valid conclusions.
So it took years for me to be fully convinced about the nature of Zionism that is portrayed in those “conspiracy theories” – years of careful. real research.
He writes – “the usual lazy narrative of lies about Israel” – okay, but what about the truth about Israel – the endless violent attacks by Jewish settlers, the murders, the killing of children? Those are not lies. Again, when I try to post post evidence on here, it doesn’t get through,
Surely Prof. Fenton’s views are coloured by the information he receives. Does he believe the story that a Hamas rocket fell short of its target and hit the hospital?
From an article, see the link below – “Kevin Barrett: Okay, let’s move on to the Gaza Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital explosion story…It was just so insane. It’s shocking to me that people were buying the Zionist version of it.
What actually happened apparently was that a huge Israeli airburst bomb went off above the hospital. And in front of the hospital there were hundreds of Palestinian refugees that Israel had chased out of their homes. And they were sheltering there, thinking it was safe. So Israel just did an airburst right above them and killed hundreds of people who were not even protected by the building. And this confused some people because the hospital itself didn’t get flattened. But it was actually the people outside the hospital that got killed, for the most part.
The mainstream media has been split on this. A lot of them are parroting this ridiculous Zionist cover story that they recorded Hamas saying it was actually Islamic Jihad that did it. But it turns out that’s a complete joke. The recording is blatantly inauthentic. It’s almost like a parody. So even the mainstream is starting to question this, as Caitlin Johnson pointed out. And the pushback is getting pretty extreme.
So, Mike, let’s talk a little bit about the hospital bombing. Why did the Zionists repeatedly tell us they were going to bomb this hospital, send a bunch of non-warheaded rockets to “knock on the door” to show that they were going to bomb it, then did bomb it with an airburst, killing hundreds of people who were sheltering outside? And then they admitted it and bragged about it on Twitter, and then deleted the tweet, then made up a completely transparent bogus cover story, and somehow forced Joe Biden and about half of the mainstream media to parrot this transparently ludicrous cover story?” – from –
https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/ww3-canceled-sitting-duck-aircraft-carriers-wont-be-sunk/
I have to say that I am disappointed at the way Prof, Fenton ignores the undoubted violence and cruelty shown by IDF members and Israeli settlers. In the 2014 Holocaust of Gaza, Israelis sat on the hills over looking Gaza having barbecues, drinking and cheering and laughing at Palestinians being slaughtered.
This is too big a subject to cover fully. I could say much more, for example, about Soros, the ADL and much more but that will have to wait.
I posted earlier about division in the freedom movement, the one that talked of a pat on the back. I want to avoid that, I said I was reluctant to criticise Prof. Fenton, That is true, so I end by saying that I still hold him in respect. I respect his views and I wish him well, and express my sympathy about his wife’s health.
Hi Watcher Seeker, “I suspect that he has not got a totally balanced view, and that is understandable. His family history must have a powerful influence on him.”
“Surely Prof. Fenton’s views are coloured by the information he receives.”
These statements are true for every single person on the Earth, you and I included.
The truth is there has been a lot of disinformation about events of the Israel-Hamas war. The most notable is the hospital incident. Unfortunately, people think what they’re seeing in short video clips or memes, or twitter comments is the truth. How our minds work is the first bit of information we see, especially when we’re feeling e.g. shocked, is the piece that sticks. this is why the covid psyop worked so well. Shock the mind and then be the first out with the “truth.”
If we keep a balanced mind, and from recent the Ukraine/Russia conflict, we know that things will take a while to unravel and start to get to the bottom of. Making judgements now is just too soon. All it’s doing is causing division. The “Freedom movement” at this very point in time is struggling because of this. And who do we have to blame? Ourselves. People who should know better but have not learnt from recent past experience of how the Globalists work.
On the flip side, we are also learning who we want standing at our side when the heat of battle is really turned up – it is not those who are prone an emotional knee jerk reaction which might result them in stabbing us in the back. As always, choose your friends wisely.
“These statements are true for every single person on the Earth, you and I included.” – you are correct. I just didn’t feel the need to state that.
“Making judgements now is just too soon” – too soon? We’ve had since the Nakba to see what is happening. How long is that? This story does not begin on Oct 7th.
Israeli violence has been relentless. In 1947, just before Israeli was created, they were smuggling guns into Palestine in crates marked “Agricultural equipment”. The Irgun ad the Stern Gang can’t be denied. There is so much more and what they did in Gaza in 2014 is unforgivable. It was shocking violence and ethnic cleansing motivated by sheer hatred.
Hi Watcher Seeker, do you think Western intelligence services/agencies could be involved? Is that why things don’t appear to make sense from the Israeli side of things? Rumours are stirring Hamas is a CIA/Mossad operation. Are they true? It’s too soon to be able to tell. Is it possible that events we are witnessing is part of a much larger global plan?
Why do I ask these questions?
Because it came to light after a couple of years of the Ukraine/Russia conflict that Zelensky was a MI6 agent. Now, why was a supposed British intelligence agency handling the “leader” of Ukraine? And who gives intelligence agencies their orders?
BRICS greatly accelerated due to the ever escalating Russia/NATO rhetoric – whispers of nuclear war included. As we discovered, BRICS was created by banks, not Russia or China to “break free from the cabal” or offer an “alternative” to NATO. And as we later found out, BlackRock now effectively owns about 20% of “post-war” Ukraine and the private ownership of Ukraine is likely to increase significantly in “helping Ukraine to recover from war.”
Is it all just coincidence? Is it simply individual businessmen and financial institutions trying to profiteer off war? Or was it planned well in advance and they are all working together towards similar aims? I don’t know as I haven’t seen definitive proof, but we have to at least be suspicious and ask the questions.
Are we now watching a similar process in Israel/Gaza? It’s too soon to say. Will they then rinse and repeat in Taiwan, say? It’s too soon to say. We can only keep asking questions, see how things unfold and then reassess, correct and ask more questions. The truth will eventually come out.
All very theoretical – this is the reality – in the article below – “Visibly shaken, Mr Al-Dahdouh told the Arabic news channel that it was ‘clear’ what had happened. ‘This is a series of targeted attacks on children, women and civilians,’ he said.”
They said they don’t target civilians.
“Heartbreaking video shows moment tearful Al Jazeera journalist finds out his wife and children were killed in air raid as he reported on the war in Gaza”
They were killed in Israeli air strike on a the Nuseirat refugee camp in Gaza
The Israelis told people to flee south, then bombed the south.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12672413/war-gaza-al-jazeera-journalist-wife-children-air-raid-killed.html”
“Leading Israeli Newspaper Haaretz Exposes Israel’s Lies About Hamas’ October 7 Attack”.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/10/26/leading-israeli-newspaper-haaretz-exposes-israels-lies-about-hamas-october-7-attack/
Hi Watcher Seeker. Yes, what I’ve said is all very speculative, I make no bones about that. I am a conspiracy theorist after all. But any one article, such as you have shared, does not necessarily reflect “reality,” it perhaps reflects someone’s reality and it represents only a piece of what is a puzzle with numerous pieces and many sides.
PS. I note this is the third or fourth time you’ve shared the same two articles in this comment section. I deleted one of each previously as they only need to be shown once. I’ll leave your comment above up and delete all the other duplicates.
“I note this is the third or fourth time you’ve shared the same two articles in this comment section.” – yes, but as valid replies to other comments in order to counter the slanted views posted in those other comments with some real research.
“The truth will eventually come out.” Indeed it will – see this, backed up by evidence –
“What really happened on 7th October?
Evidence is now emerging that up to half the Israelis killed were combatants; that Israeli forces were responsible for some of their own civilian deaths; and that Tel Aviv disseminated false ‘Hamas atrocities’ stories to justify its devastating air assault on Palestinian civilians in Gaza.”
“When the army later made its own allegations of decapitations, foot amputations, and rape, Reuters pointed out that “the military personnel overseeing the identification process didn’t present any forensic evidence in the form of pictures or medical records.” To date, there is no credible evidence of these atrocities that has been presented.
Other outrageous allegations, such as the story of Hamas “beheading 40 babies‘ made headlines and the front pages of countless western news outlets. Even Biden claimed to have seen “confirmed photos of terrorists beheading babies.” The claims trace back to Israeli reserve settler and soldier David Ben Zion, who has previously incited violent riots against Palestinians and called for the West Bank town of Huwara to be wiped out. No evidence was ever produced to support these claims and the White House itself confirmed later that Joe Biden had never seen such photos.”
“There is little to no credible evidence that Palestinian fighters had a plan to – or deliberately sought to – kill or harm unarmed Israeli civilians on 7 October. From the available footage, we witness them engaging primarily with armed Israeli forces,”
https://informationclearinghouse.blog/2023/10/24/what-really-happened-on-7th-october/
You are over complicating everything, this and the war in Ukraine are part of the plot of the same people that brought us covid. The Rothschilds and a few other have made recent investments in oil near the conflict zone. Always follow the money, it always leads you to the true perpetrators.
It’s pretty clear Israel destroyed the hospital. Standard Jewish behaviour.
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=231498
Prof. Fenton writes – “belief in the right of the Jewish people to their own state in their indigenous homeland of Israel” – he ignores The Plan For The Greater Israel. The Zionists initially said they just wanted a small bit of land to live in peace. That is what they asked for, but they actually wanted the whole of the Middle East, as that plan reveals. The tactic was – ask for a little, then take more and more by expansion until they have the lot.
WS. Do you know why Israel is called “The Promised Land”?
I suggest Prof. Fenton takes a look at this site: https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/
It’s an Israeli site that contains lots of testimonies of ex Israeli soldiers in the occupied territories.
Hi Sergio, I wonder if Prof. Fenton might suggest you go to both Palestine (Gaza and the West Bank) and Israel and see what you witness with your own eyes? You see it’s easy to be sitting on our couches at home, safe and secure, and tell ourselves we know everything there is to know. But life is not that simple I’m afraid. We like to make sense of the world, especially when we see horrific images and videos, because it makes us feel safe, but life just doesn’t work that way. We cannot find everything, every perspective, every experience about even a single event, let alone a war, from one website.
Who funded all wars?, why has no one talked about this?, all stock prices of weapons manufacturers have gone up, who owns the weapons manufacturers?, Blackrock, and the one million dollar question, who owns Blackrock?, why doesn’t anyone investigate this?
Hi Jose, perhaps you may find some other articles we’ve published interesting:
All Wars Are Bankers’ Wars: How private bankers have imposed their system of slavery on the world
https://expose-news.com/2023/10/10/all-wars-are-bankers-wars/
Hamas is not Palestine; Palestinians are not benefitting so who is benefitting from the Israel-Hamas War?
https://expose-news.com/2023/10/22/hamas-is-not-palestine-so-who-is-benefitting/
Struggling to think of a war which began for the purported reasons, in at least the last 150 years.
Deeper investigation demonstrates they were usually a means to push the agenda now playing out globally.
The UN created this mess in 47. And they are still supporting it.
Beyond the media rhetoric and Government propaganda on what is a terrorist, the figures define the significant provocative cause of the conflict, and the tit-for-tat attacks since the First World War.
6,407 Palestinian Deaths while 308 Israeli deaths over 15 years Jan2008-Sep2023 as relentless disproportionate provocation.
A history of illegal Israeli settlements on Palestinian land, and an Israeli land grab where Palestine is about to disappear for ever, and Palestinians displaced or killed and eradication by demolishing their cities
An ongoing additional 6,500 Palestinian deaths since October 2023 as a total 13,000 Palestinian deaths in 15 years.
An eradication of Palestine, by bombs, denial of food and water to achieve an unprecedented exodus, displacement, dispersal, and genocide?
Who are the terrorists?
https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/israel-palestine-conflict-timeline-history-explained/
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=231498
This goes right back to the days of YAHOSHUA he warned us Who these devils are . If they were good God fearing believers of the truth and the word of our creator YAHUAH they would never have Killed him [PROOF] They are of there Father Satin and full filling his agenda Total control NWO.wake E wake E wake E……………………..
Craig,
Would you please be so kind as to tell a simpleton like me how to pronounce “YAHOSHUA” and “YAHUAH”? Yeshua even!
When I was in the Messianic Hebrew roots movement, my head started to spin! Thank God I followed the Old Paths!
I am not so daft as to believe that when the Incarnate Deity was in the flesh as a boy He was called Jesus (as we pronounce the Name today) by Mary, nevertheless, JESUS is nothing but an English transliteration, the same with John/Yohanan….
I am in complete agreement with this War. The British Government in 1948:should NEVER HAVE HAD Partitioned Israel and brought a two state solution.A solution for whom and there has been endless trouble ever since. God told Abraham that the land from Jerusalem to the Euphrates would be the Jews for ever! There has NEVER BEEN A PALESTINIAN PEOPLE ONLY THE LAND OF PALESTINE! Jerusalem in the Bible was called The City of The Great King, Hamas has fired the rockets and Israel responded but the sleeping tiger has awakened and will hit Gaza with its full power. Hamas caused the slaughter of the innocents now it will pay the full price!
Personally suspect the massive uprise in vilification of Jews, particularly post ’20, is controlled opposition to discredit the real truth movement. It’s right up there with the Germans bayoneting babies propaganda of the 1914 – ’18 war.
Think Netanyahu is a particularly odious person who actually enjoys what he does, makes me wonder what happened to him in his early life. Jewish people are ordinary humans, as with us it’s their leaders and Govts who instigate and cause evil. All one needs to do is look at the horrendous things done to Israelis by their Govt during the Covid psy-op, to know they’re victims too.
Our strength lies in educating ourselves about who the leaders we supposedly elect are working for. It sure as hell isn’t us.
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If one can lie about ‘the Holocaust’, ..then one could lie about anything
War Report on Israel 10/28/23 PM – Proof that Israel Killed Many of Their Own Ctiizens
Posted By: GeorgeEaton
Date: Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 18:25:47
http://www.rumormill.news/231516
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=231516
https://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-conflict/2023/10/we-the-people-usa-could-remove-the-usa-government-by-force-its-controlled-by-outside-evil-indemnities-the-complete-extinction-genocide-of-palestine-by-israel-the-new-middle-east-2480
https://banned.video/watch?id=653b051322794491bcc54bf8
Expose is mentioned.
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=231543
https://beforeitsnews.com/agenda-21/2023/10/we-the-people-usa-had-enough-gates-jew-soros-jew-trump-trudeau-clone-biden-9-11-was-a-inside-job-bush-on-the-trump-plane-flee-to-safe-haven-israel-israel-is-genociding-gaza-%e2%98%a0%ef%b8%8f-4200.html
Israeli Ground Invasion on Beit Lahia Repulsed by Brigade Al-Qassam – video 2:56 m
Posted By: GeorgeEaton
Date: Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 18:28:32
http://www.rumormill.news/231570
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While there is racism on both sides, In the U.S. the overwhelming majority of racism, including antisemitism, comes directly from the political Left. And the Left statistically also embrace the vax and climate change much more than the Right. Our freedom movement is squarely founded in the Right. The American Left, on the other hand, is largely made up of Cultural Marxists who dutifully believe the government propaganda: vax-taking, climate-change cheerleaders, who fancy themselves as SJWs, but who are often virulent antisemites. But then if you understand U.S. history, the American Left is a study in hypocrisy. They constantly accuse the Right of what they have a long history of being guilty of, and the MSM, especially Google, has brainwashed much of society (try Yandex search engine instead).
But this makes perfect sense, since the Left is made up almost exclusively of Democrats who started the KKK. I’ve never met a right-,wing Leftist and the university students currently spewing violent genocidal antisemitism are certainly not right-wing conservatives.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/05/the_secret_racist_history_of_the_democratic_party.html
“In American Marxism, Levin explains how the core elements of Marxist ideology are now pervasive in American society and culture—from our schools, the press, and corporations, to Hollywood, the Democratic Party, and the Biden presidency—and how it is often cloaked in deceptive labels like “progressivism,” “democratic socialism,” “social activism,” and more. With his characteristic trenchant analysis, Levin digs into the psychology and tactics of these movements, the widespread brainwashing of students, the anti-American purposes of Critical Race Theory and the Green New Deal, and the escalation of repression and censorship to silence opposing voices and enforce conformity. Levin exposes many of the institutions, intellectuals, scholars, and activists who are leading this revolution, and provides us with some answers and ideas on how to confront them.”
“American Marxism”
By Levin
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-09-02-americas-marxist-left-major-nazi-socialism-parallels.html